Katrin Benhold

And if she's right, that America can replicate the system and bring that kind of manufacturing to the U.S., that basically means the end of this ultra-cheap clothing for Americans? Yes.

And if she's right, that America can replicate the system and bring that kind of manufacturing to the U.S., that basically means the end of this ultra-cheap clothing for Americans? Yes.

And some people might not be so unhappy about that, right? I mean, it sort of raises these bigger questions about our consumer culture. We've gotten so addicted to all this cheap stuff. And there is this question, kind of elephant in the room, you know, would we be better off if there was less stuff? And I guess I'm wondering, who's this going to hurt more long term? China or the U.S. ?

And some people might not be so unhappy about that, right? I mean, it sort of raises these bigger questions about our consumer culture. We've gotten so addicted to all this cheap stuff. And there is this question, kind of elephant in the room, you know, would we be better off if there was less stuff? And I guess I'm wondering, who's this going to hurt more long term? China or the U.S. ?

And the president himself does not actually dispute this. In fact, he seems to be actively embracing it. Remember when Trump recently said that thing about American kids don't need to have 30 dolls, maybe they can just have two or three? What do you make of that?

And the president himself does not actually dispute this. In fact, he seems to be actively embracing it. Remember when Trump recently said that thing about American kids don't need to have 30 dolls, maybe they can just have two or three? What do you make of that?

So he's kind of reframing this all as a good thing, that we'll be breaking a bad addiction to cheap stuff we don't need.

So he's kind of reframing this all as a good thing, that we'll be breaking a bad addiction to cheap stuff we don't need.

I think I need to introduce my daughter to some of those other TikTok channels. Good luck. Thank you, Megan. Thank you, Katrin. We'll be right back. Here's what else you need to know today. On Wednesday, President Trump met the new leader of Syria, Ahmed al-Sharah, a man who once ran a branch of al-Qaeda.

I think I need to introduce my daughter to some of those other TikTok channels. Good luck. Thank you, Megan. Thank you, Katrin. We'll be right back. Here's what else you need to know today. On Wednesday, President Trump met the new leader of Syria, Ahmed al-Sharah, a man who once ran a branch of al-Qaeda.

Last year, he led the rebel alliance that ousted Syria's longstanding dictator Bashar al-Assad. It was the first time in 25 years that leaders from the two countries had met, and came one day after Trump announced a plan to lift all sanctions on Syria. When asked what he made of his Syrian counterpart, Trump called him attractive and tough.

Last year, he led the rebel alliance that ousted Syria's longstanding dictator Bashar al-Assad. It was the first time in 25 years that leaders from the two countries had met, and came one day after Trump announced a plan to lift all sanctions on Syria. When asked what he made of his Syrian counterpart, Trump called him attractive and tough.

Trump also said al-Sharah had a good shot at turning his country around. The encounter marked a stunning reversal for the Syrian leader. Until just five months ago, the U.S. had offered up to $10 million for information leading to his arrest. Today's episode was produced by Ricky Nowetzki, Shannon Lin, and Anna Foley, with help from Claire Tennesketter.

Trump also said al-Sharah had a good shot at turning his country around. The encounter marked a stunning reversal for the Syrian leader. Until just five months ago, the U.S. had offered up to $10 million for information leading to his arrest. Today's episode was produced by Ricky Nowetzki, Shannon Lin, and Anna Foley, with help from Claire Tennesketter.

It was edited by Maria Byrne and Paige Cowett. Research help by Susan Lee. Contains original music by Marion Lozano, Diane Wong, Rowan Nemistow, and Pat McCusker, and was engineered by Chris Wood. Our theme music is by Jim Brandberg and Ben Landsberg of Wonderly. Special thanks to C.E. Zhao. That's it for The Daily. I'm Katrin Benhold. See you tomorrow.

It was edited by Maria Byrne and Paige Cowett. Research help by Susan Lee. Contains original music by Marion Lozano, Diane Wong, Rowan Nemistow, and Pat McCusker, and was engineered by Chris Wood. Our theme music is by Jim Brandberg and Ben Landsberg of Wonderly. Special thanks to C.E. Zhao. That's it for The Daily. I'm Katrin Benhold. See you tomorrow.