Katty Kay

He's not going to be president again.

Well, he says he's better than Abraham Lincoln and George Washington.

No, that's the problem.

That's the problem.

So he has to make sure he has something there that reminds Americans in perpetuity of how great he was.

And that's what this is about.

I think that's right.

The Hegel comparison is that specifically those great men of history were people who disrupted things and who maybe even their populations didn't appreciate in the moment.

So they were disruptors and aggressive and sometimes obnoxious.

And people didn't necessarily appreciate their greatness at the time.

And I'm not sure that Trump sees it quite that way, but Trump certainly likes the idea that you're going to smash things and then people will realize how great you are because you smashed a lot of stuff.

I have American friends who go to Europe and they say they're Canadians because they don't want to admit that they're Americans at the moment.

He's going to do a lot of what you said.

Much of it may well be undone, but there's some of the stuff that can't be undone, which is literally remaking America.

If he builds the Arc de Trump, no one's going to knock it down.

He's already knocked the ballroom down, so he's going to have to build something in its place.

He's already ripping up the reflecting pool and painting it a kind of brilliant swimming pool blue that he thinks looks like a great American blue.

If he paints the old executive building, which is where the vice president works from, it's going to be very difficult for somebody to rip all of that paint off and cost a lot of money.

So some of this stuff, he's right.

This is permanent and it will change the face of Washington, which is exactly the point of it.