Katty Kay

The moment he says, but there's more work to be done.

That is the Kamala Harris problem that he doesn't know how he's got.

He's the conundrum of all vice presidents.

And it's particularly difficult with this president because he doesn't want a single iota of disloyalty.

So there is Vance out there trying to say, OK, I really sign up to everything Donald Trump has done, but I'm also my own man and I will do things differently.

And it's not going to be, you know, Trump 3.0.

If you will let me.

And that's the kind of code that he's got to get across.

But it's a super hard one to do.

Kamala Harris couldn't pull it off with Joe Biden.

I'm not sure that J.D.

Vance is going to be able to distance him enough himself enough.

I think you're right.

Probably Vance and Rubio end up in the wood chipper.

But I think it's a slightly different reason.

I think it's because Trump is putting his own.

record into the wood chipper.

And if you are running as an heir to Trump, which either of these men will have to do unless they break with him spectacularly between now and 2028, which they're not going to do.

If you're running as an heir to Trump, if things are in 2028, anything like what they are today, which we don't know if there's two years to go, right?

It could be very different.