Kay Hall

So they found some way.

I went and lived with my brother in the North Island for the rest of the pregnancy.

My brother and his wife were having a baby at the same time, which was very difficult.

And I went into labour and delivered this baby boy, which I wasn't allowed to look at.

They said, you can't look at him.

I said, I will look at him.

He's my baby.

And I did, but then they took him away.

But just going back a step, Ruby, when I was there waiting for him to be born, I went to the antenatal classes.

I don't know why, but I did.

What they told us then was if you're doing the right thing, give your baby up.

Get on with your life.

You'll forget.

Give your baby a better life.

He'll get two parents.

They'll be able to bring him up, give him a wonderful life.

I found out later that wasn't totally true about lots of those babies, but that's another story.

When I went into the hospital one day to do my antenatal class, this matron, she looked old to me, but she was probably only 50.

She said, come here.

I want you to...