Kayla Murphy

Do you know which one?

He didn't say.

He was like, you seem like a lawyer that would be on that show.

Listen, I mean, honestly, again, I really just feel like

we're all capable of really bad things.

And I think that every, like most of my clients, I believe at their heart are like good people.

And I, I think I've only met maybe like a handful of people who are like, you might kind of be a little bit evil and scary, but out of, you know, all the years I've been doing this, like going on six years, it's like,

Yeah, most people are just doing their best or they made a mistake.

My husband, he helped out with a murder trial not too long ago.

And frankly, like, it's just so weird.

Like, I still feel like DUIs, like, are so complicated.

I'm like, would a murder be more complicated?

I don't know.

I'm like, you don't have to check all the field sobriety tests.

Like, I don't know.

Yeah.

But I don't know, like morally, I guess, like I don't have any issue like representing people who have done bad things because again, I just, well, just humans, man, just humans doing human stuff, doing our best.

And frankly, like I would say probably most of my clients feel like

so embarrassed and like hate themselves and feel so much shame about what they're charged with.

Do you think that in some cases that's punishment enough?