Kayla Murphy

It's very depressing.

And as far as like your question about like, well, you know, what's that like as far as like for a criminal defense attorney?

I don't know if you ever read Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson.

Highly recommend.

He was a criminal defense attorney and he defended people like on death row and stuff.

And his, I guess, philosophy is just like,

you know, we're all guilty.

You know what I mean?

Like, I just, I don't think that just because somebody did something terrible, I don't think that that needs to define them for their whole lives.

Um, I certainly wouldn't want like my worst decisions to define me forever.

And, um,

I don't know.

It's just so weird, like, thinking about crime, like, from the outside.

It's just like, why are people just, like, making such bad decisions and hurting each other?

But it's like, you know, when you're actually, like, on the ground and you talk to people, it's like, we're all just people and we're all doing our best and usually failing miserably.

And not all of us have the same, I don't know, like, ability, I guess, to, I don't know, make all the right choices sometimes.

I have helped people who have been accused of doing really bad things.

And frankly, I think like probably a lot of the time people are maybe technically or legally guilty of what they were charged with.

And actually, it's something that I've been trying to kind of figure out how to navigate.

I think that lawyering is really more of an art form, I guess, than a science.