Keir Gaines

Hey, Ms.

Parker.

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Hey, what's good, y'all?

You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Keir Gaines.

This space is about Black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing.

How many men carry a suit of armor?

It signals to the world that you're not to be played with.

And just because you have the capability, that does not mean that you need to.

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This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between-songs banter.

And we don't know when we've done enough.

Because people scoreboard watch.

Life becomes about wins and losses.

Steve Burns, Dustin Ross.

Because you find it important to be a good person while you're here on earth?

Or are you a good person because you're afraid?

Because that's two different intentions, bro.

Absolutely.

And that's two different levels of trust.