Keir Starmer

And who gets to choose the timing of that by-election?

Is it something that happens in the summer?

Is there then some kind of leadership kind of contest that happens in a sort of normal summer recess as opposed to right in the middle of a parliamentary debate?

And I guess, you know, if you're Starmer, the last thing you want is to feel that you won this, you know, huge majority and you've basically been kicked out by 80 of them with 24 hours to go.

So in a way, we shouldn't be surprised that he's clinging on because any day that he manages to stay on changes potentially the outcome, right?

They always do.

Always do, right?

If he manages to...

to fight, you know, for his own position again in a summer election contest.

That could happen if he manages to make it go all the way to conference.

And there is something that feels more like a kind of, I don't know, a handing over a sort of a calmer baton passing.

Does he feel less like Labour has left the nation of the psychodrama?

Maybe that's important.

But I guess to the point that you just raised, which is what does a safe seat look like now?

I mean, I was listening to Graham Stringer, who is, you know, up in that neck of the woods.

And he was asked, would you give up your seat for Andy Burnham?

He said, no, I would not.

I made a contribution.

I made a promise to the electorate that I would stay there.

And I don't want to see a reformed Manchester mayor.