Keith Jones

Yeah, I found that very insightful.

I would think the most exciting thing for John Chayka now is just to know that whatever he needed for support.

is there, and there's no, I don't have to worry about it.

And that falls into what Keith Pelley wanted from the moment he said it on the podium, that this is the direction we want to go, and it fits.

And now I think Leaf fans could have a better understanding of why John Chayka is of such interest to the Maple Leafs right now.

All right, plus Kevin Lowe at the top of the hour.

Plenty more on Real Kipper and Bourne.

Do not go away.

Welcome back to the program.

Nick Cabrillo, Justin Bourne, Sammy McKee.

Cam York.

Wrist shot in overtime.

Eliminates the Pittsburgh Penguins in a few minutes.

We'll welcome in the president of hockey operations for the Philadelphia Flyers, Keith Jones.

I mean, you can maybe talk.

Well, 0-0.

Like, how do you feel about that?

Is it okay?

Is it like watching a pitcher's duel?

It's like pulling teeth trying to score in the playoffs now.