Keith Morrison

And you have a ringside seat to a dramatic confrontation between these two partners in crime.

Something we at Dateline had never seen before.

I'm Keith Morrison, and this is the fourth episode of Dateline's newest podcast, The Thing About Helen and Olga.

The takedown of Helen and Olga in May 2006 was a well-orchestrated affair.

That's Special Agent Sam Mayrose, a.k.a.

FBI Sam.

Overkill?

Hardly.

LAPD Detective Dennis Kilcoyne said Helen's place was a virtual Fort Knox.

Though federal agents ultimately made the arrests on mail fraud charges, the feds did not take Helen and Olga to the Federal Processing Center downtown.

No, by prior agreement, the ladies were briefly taken to Parker Center, the old LAPD headquarters down the street from the federal courts and the U.S.

Attorney's offices.

It was here that the women were placed alone in an interrogation room that was wired for video and sound.

The only decoration, a lucky horseshoe, nailed over a door behind Olga.

Lucky?

Well, yes it was.

For the cops.

Because seconds after Detective Kilcoyne left the room, Olga, now dressed in a white striped pullover, unloaded on Helen.

Though Helen, in a sleek black pantsuit, sat with her back to the camera, one can imagine the wintry scowl she'd trained on her partner.

Just the conversation Detective Kilcoyne was hoping for.