Keith Perhac

Oh, man, that's that's a hard question because they're both near and dear to me.

The I will say right now that DelphiNet probably takes up the lion's share of the time.

So DelphiNet is the consulting side.

We work with some of the big names in the info product industry, building out evergreen funnels, supporting their launches and doing all that fun stuff.

Segmetrics is a tool we started about a year and some change ago.

And we built it because we work mainly in Infusionsoft and other CRMs like that.

And it's so freaking hard to get the data we needed to be able to prove to our clients that, hey, we're doing a great job.

Look at this, right?

So we founded that last year.

I believe it was around April.

Ah, Segmetrics was actually pretty low.

I think we were doing around 20, 30 K MRR the first year.

Sorry, annual first year.

Okay, good.

And then you go talk to someone like the Neil Patels or the Rob Wallings and he's like, yeah, my first year was so bad.

It was only 30 K a month or 100 K a month or something like, son of a

Exactly.

We had the product for seven years before we actually launched.

I'm like, come on, come on.

No, we actually built this.