Keith Perhac

And that's one of the things why we haven't fully pursued it because it still has legs that we can grow bootstrapping.

And once we get it to that point, then it becomes a lot more attractive to investors.

We're remote.

I actually was based in Japan for the last 13 years and just moved back to the US.

I'm in Portland, Oregon right now.

Very cool.

But everyone's remote.

Everyone's remote.

Although just out of dumb luck, three of our three of our people are here in Portland or the surrounding area.

So the best place is developyourmarketing.com.

And that's kind of the hub for the consulting.

It has links to segmentrics, to all the stuff that we're doing.

And that's probably the best way to find me.

Listen to a lot of podcasts, read a lot of business books, but not a singular CEO that was like, this is who I'm following.

I liked them.

I really liked them.

The pace was very quick.

A lot of great information in a short period of time, which I love because I listen to podcasts in the shower every morning.

So I like to finish an entire podcast by the time I'm out.

My SaaS costs are through the roof.