Kelly Corrigan

And I know that with all my heart, sadly.

The other thing I was thinking about is because of like the rousing rhetoric that you would probably have to use to get a normal person to engage like this, a normal person to take a gun and shoot another person.

It must be so demoralizing.

when the people who talked you into this grand effort turn out to be just normal Joe Schmoes who screwed up all the logistics.

What the hell?

This doesn't seem so grand anymore.

Yeah, I think about this a lot and it comes up on my podcast a lot, which is that, you know, when the water's rough, sit down.

Don't stand up in a rocky boat.

Meaning like when you're being flooded with cortisol, adrenaline, this is not a time to make decisions.

Even when you're being flooded with the good stuff like dopamine or serotonin.

It's not a time to make decisions.

Decisions are to be made when you're at your most level and neutral level.

And so I would say that those sort of physiological states are mirroring this fog of war, like that you're in your own little fog of war.

Just eat it, be still.

It does.

And I think that one of the gifts that I'm perceiving as I get into my late 50s is I am more comfortable with...

unpleasant emotions because I am absolutely sure, finally, after decades of not being so sure, I guess, I am absolutely sure that no feeling is final.

So I know it will dissipate.

And I know that it's kind of like me talking to myself and making stuff up.

And so I just know that in not that many minutes...