Kelsey Grammer

I didn't realize it at the time, but it just takes me in deep red, sort of like I'm in some sort of an altered state. And it's been extraordinary. And in those moments, that's when the book was most alive, you know, and it would come to me.

There are scenes I mentioned in the book where I was just sort of contemplating and sitting in a dark room and I felt surrounded by hundreds of voices, people who were gone and still present in my life, some of them. But they were as clear as a bell, saying, you don't need to suffer so much. You've done enough. You've done enough of that. And those were wonderful moments.

There are scenes I mentioned in the book where I was just sort of contemplating and sitting in a dark room and I felt surrounded by hundreds of voices, people who were gone and still present in my life, some of them. But they were as clear as a bell, saying, you don't need to suffer so much. You've done enough. You've done enough of that. And those were wonderful moments.

So Esther came into my life through a friend who knew that I was You know, a person on the path, sort of trying to figure out what we all mean, why we're here and all that stuff. Yeah. He said... He's not really an active friend of mine. It was just a guy that I'd met a couple of times who said, you need to talk to this gal, Esther. She's amazing. And if you do...

So Esther came into my life through a friend who knew that I was You know, a person on the path, sort of trying to figure out what we all mean, why we're here and all that stuff. Yeah. He said... He's not really an active friend of mine. It was just a guy that I'd met a couple of times who said, you need to talk to this gal, Esther. She's amazing. And if you do...

if you do like a zoom meeting with her, she can sort of read what's going on with your body health wise and stuff. She'll say, you know, Oh, you need to have a look at that part of your stomach or something or whatever. But that wasn't our relationship. That wasn't the way I encountered her. We had a phone conversation and, uh,

if you do like a zoom meeting with her, she can sort of read what's going on with your body health wise and stuff. She'll say, you know, Oh, you need to have a look at that part of your stomach or something or whatever. But that wasn't our relationship. That wasn't the way I encountered her. We had a phone conversation and, uh,

I describe it in the book a little bit, but it was very funny for me because I'm a little bit, I look at this with a slightly skeptical energy. So she's from South America. She's got a bit of an accent. And Esther said, all right, give me a minute. Okay.

I describe it in the book a little bit, but it was very funny for me because I'm a little bit, I look at this with a slightly skeptical energy. So she's from South America. She's got a bit of an accent. And Esther said, all right, give me a minute. Okay.

are you relaxed yeah i'm sort of lying on the floor in one of our bedrooms in palm springs and um she said um okay i hear a little rattle some shaking of sticks i thought oh boy here we go and uh then it was just a couple minutes later she said uh Oh, your sister wants you to tell her story. Okay. Yes, Karen. Karen wants you to tell her story. So that was kind of it, really.

are you relaxed yeah i'm sort of lying on the floor in one of our bedrooms in palm springs and um she said um okay i hear a little rattle some shaking of sticks i thought oh boy here we go and uh then it was just a couple minutes later she said uh Oh, your sister wants you to tell her story. Okay. Yes, Karen. Karen wants you to tell her story. So that was kind of it, really.

And I have a picture of it in the book. The notepad I was writing. It's an envelope turned sideways. It was the back of the envelope where I just was jotting down what she was saying. And if you want to tell her story, tell Karen's story on it. So there's a picture of that in the book.

And I have a picture of it in the book. The notepad I was writing. It's an envelope turned sideways. It was the back of the envelope where I just was jotting down what she was saying. And if you want to tell her story, tell Karen's story on it. So there's a picture of that in the book.

Yeah, yeah. Now, I've had several mediums, of course. As I said, I produced this show who said that Karen came through. And, yeah, I believed at least half the time I believed that they were having some sort of connection because I know she's with me. So if they have a gift, then they're seeing her, hearing her. I'm not so good at doing that.

Yeah, yeah. Now, I've had several mediums, of course. As I said, I produced this show who said that Karen came through. And, yeah, I believed at least half the time I believed that they were having some sort of connection because I know she's with me. So if they have a gift, then they're seeing her, hearing her. I'm not so good at doing that.

But through the writing, I sort of felt like I was closer to her that way and understood that she's been there, right there.

But through the writing, I sort of felt like I was closer to her that way and understood that she's been there, right there.

It's sort of like prayer. Well, the same kind of thing happened a few weeks before. I'm trying to put it right timing-wise, but I think I do. A few weeks before, I just had one of those moments when I thought, I want to do something worthwhile, something important. And I just sort of gave up and said, you know, help me out here.

It's sort of like prayer. Well, the same kind of thing happened a few weeks before. I'm trying to put it right timing-wise, but I think I do. A few weeks before, I just had one of those moments when I thought, I want to do something worthwhile, something important. And I just sort of gave up and said, you know, help me out here.

And the very next day, the script came to the door for Jesus Revolution, which was one of the great successes of my life. I loved playing that role. I called my agent an hour and a half later after reading the script and said, I'm doing this. So, you know, these things happen.