Kelsey Grammer

And the very next day, the script came to the door for Jesus Revolution, which was one of the great successes of my life. I loved playing that role. I called my agent an hour and a half later after reading the script and said, I'm doing this. So, you know, these things happen.

Yeah. I guess I just know, but... Years ago, people would say to me things like, you know, well, she's here, you know. She's here. And I'd sort of, you know, get skeptical or whatever. But then it became overwhelmingly clear that Karen and I hadn't, like, left each other. We stayed together. And I almost...

Yeah. I guess I just know, but... Years ago, people would say to me things like, you know, well, she's here, you know. She's here. And I'd sort of, you know, get skeptical or whatever. But then it became overwhelmingly clear that Karen and I hadn't, like, left each other. We stayed together. And I almost...

From the moment she was gone, or the moment she was killed, I sensed that I was living with her, that she was along for the ride, always there. I know she was with my mom sometimes. One guy I was meeting a while back said something to me. He said, oh, and did one of those things. And then he said, yeah. And she said, she's sorry. She didn't realize that the grief would be so, so hard.

From the moment she was gone, or the moment she was killed, I sensed that I was living with her, that she was along for the ride, always there. I know she was with my mom sometimes. One guy I was meeting a while back said something to me. He said, oh, and did one of those things. And then he said, yeah. And she said, she's sorry. She didn't realize that the grief would be so, so hard.

It's interesting. Yeah. So I've had reminders from a lot of people. You get your own taste for this stuff. Yeah, Karen's real. She's there. It happens. She has spoken to Kate, I think, a few times. I'm not going to pull her in too much on that. She's been available because I think she's been really attracted to life, you know, really like a flame. You know, it's like you want to be near life.

It's interesting. Yeah. So I've had reminders from a lot of people. You get your own taste for this stuff. Yeah, Karen's real. She's there. It happens. She has spoken to Kate, I think, a few times. I'm not going to pull her in too much on that. She's been available because I think she's been really attracted to life, you know, really like a flame. You know, it's like you want to be near life.

You want to be near love. It's like my version of heaven is I can't imagine God would take us to a place where we would not remember our love or where suddenly we don't get to be with our loved ones or, oh, you guys are done. You'll never see each other again. That's nonsense. Okay.

You want to be near love. It's like my version of heaven is I can't imagine God would take us to a place where we would not remember our love or where suddenly we don't get to be with our loved ones or, oh, you guys are done. You'll never see each other again. That's nonsense. Okay.

We had a great moment when Kate and I were having a fight when we were in our early, our first year together, basically, living at my mom's old house. We'd had a bit of a tussle and climbed into bed kind of mad with each other and thought, you know, and I heard this huge bang in the living room and thought, what the heck? So I reached out of the bed, and I grabbed a golf club.

We had a great moment when Kate and I were having a fight when we were in our early, our first year together, basically, living at my mom's old house. We'd had a bit of a tussle and climbed into bed kind of mad with each other and thought, you know, and I heard this huge bang in the living room and thought, what the heck? So I reached out of the bed, and I grabbed a golf club.

I kept there for that reason. And Kate said she was going to go.

I kept there for that reason. And Kate said she was going to go.

Kate went back to bed. I walked in. The TV was on. And I thought, well, I know I turned that off. So it was weird. Looked around a little bit. turn it off, and thought, thanks, Mom. Don't go to bed angry with each other. So I went into the room, and then Kate said, what did your mom smell like?

Kate went back to bed. I walked in. The TV was on. And I thought, well, I know I turned that off. So it was weird. Looked around a little bit. turn it off, and thought, thanks, Mom. Don't go to bed angry with each other. So I went into the room, and then Kate said, what did your mom smell like?

It was really something. Really something. I thought, well, this is real. This is not some heretical thing going on. And when you mentioned that people object to discussing faith or not discussing it enough... I'm not a proselytizer. I don't try to convince people they should think the way I think or see God the way I see God or experience this universe the way I experience it.

It was really something. Really something. I thought, well, this is real. This is not some heretical thing going on. And when you mentioned that people object to discussing faith or not discussing it enough... I'm not a proselytizer. I don't try to convince people they should think the way I think or see God the way I see God or experience this universe the way I experience it.

But I will not deny my faith. I will not say, you know, to make someone else comfortable to say, oh, no, I don't believe any of that. I'm not going to try to force you to think the way I think or feel what I feel, but I'm not going to deny it. So I have this relationship with Jesus, with God. It's an open conduit. It just exists. And I did question it for a long time.

But I will not deny my faith. I will not say, you know, to make someone else comfortable to say, oh, no, I don't believe any of that. I'm not going to try to force you to think the way I think or feel what I feel, but I'm not going to deny it. So I have this relationship with Jesus, with God. It's an open conduit. It just exists. And I did question it for a long time.

So believe me, I fought my way to get here and realized after all this time, oh, you were always there? Oh, what was wrong with me? Well, there was nothing wrong with me. Just I wasn't ready to listen.