Kelsey Grammer

However, I always think to myself, well, isn't Ecclesiastes, not Ecclesiastes, but Revelation, isn't that a channeled book? I mean, didn't John sit there and didn't Jesus come and visit him and talk to him? And so there are examples in the Bible, but I suppose they just want you to deal with the fact that they're in the Bible, not necessarily in your life.

And I think that may distance a lot of people from the revelation that takes place every day in our lives on this planet today. I think that revelation is unfolding and it comes to all of us if we have the good fortune to be open at the moment.

And I think that may distance a lot of people from the revelation that takes place every day in our lives on this planet today. I think that revelation is unfolding and it comes to all of us if we have the good fortune to be open at the moment.

Well, you have a relationship with God if you have one and you're listening. You don't need to doubt it. It's really there. And we'll mess with ourselves a lot because we've been told we should. We've been told we shouldn't have faith in faith. But nonetheless, it still keeps coming up. There's a great story about Barabbas. One of the guys, when the people of Jerusalem said...

Well, you have a relationship with God if you have one and you're listening. You don't need to doubt it. It's really there. And we'll mess with ourselves a lot because we've been told we should. We've been told we shouldn't have faith in faith. But nonetheless, it still keeps coming up. There's a great story about Barabbas. One of the guys, when the people of Jerusalem said...

Give us Barabbas instead of Jesus. Pilate said, you can have this guy or you can let Jesus go. You can take this guy. He'll die instead. And they said, give us Barabbas instead. And basically sort of sealing Jesus' death. And there was a great movie. Anthony Quinn did it. And somewhere in the middle of it, I saw it when I was 10, something like that. He's having a terrible life.

Give us Barabbas instead of Jesus. Pilate said, you can have this guy or you can let Jesus go. You can take this guy. He'll die instead. And they said, give us Barabbas instead. And basically sort of sealing Jesus' death. And there was a great movie. Anthony Quinn did it. And somewhere in the middle of it, I saw it when I was 10, something like that. He's having a terrible life.

But all he can think about is Jesus. And then somebody says to him, well, if all you're doing is thinking about him, isn't that some indication that it might be real? And so he became one of his ardent followers, one of his first devoted followers, Barabbas. Anyway, I've gone off path a little bit. Esther. Esther. Journeys, plant medicine. I think my plant medicine is actually writing.

But all he can think about is Jesus. And then somebody says to him, well, if all you're doing is thinking about him, isn't that some indication that it might be real? And so he became one of his ardent followers, one of his first devoted followers, Barabbas. Anyway, I've gone off path a little bit. Esther. Esther. Journeys, plant medicine. I think my plant medicine is actually writing.

I didn't realize it at the time, but it just takes me in deep red, sort of like I'm in some sort of an altered state. And it's been extraordinary. And in those moments, that's when the book was most alive, you know, and it would come to me.

I didn't realize it at the time, but it just takes me in deep red, sort of like I'm in some sort of an altered state. And it's been extraordinary. And in those moments, that's when the book was most alive, you know, and it would come to me.

There are scenes I mentioned in the book where I was just sort of contemplating and sitting in a dark room and I felt surrounded by hundreds of voices, people who were gone and still present in my life, some of them. But they were as clear as a bell, saying, you don't need to suffer so much. You've done enough. You've done enough of that. And those were wonderful moments.

There are scenes I mentioned in the book where I was just sort of contemplating and sitting in a dark room and I felt surrounded by hundreds of voices, people who were gone and still present in my life, some of them. But they were as clear as a bell, saying, you don't need to suffer so much. You've done enough. You've done enough of that. And those were wonderful moments.

So Esther came into my life through a friend who knew that I was You know, a person on the path, sort of trying to figure out what we all mean, why we're here and all that stuff. Yeah. He said... He's not really an active friend of mine. It was just a guy that I'd met a couple of times who said, you need to talk to this gal, Esther. She's amazing. And if you do...

So Esther came into my life through a friend who knew that I was You know, a person on the path, sort of trying to figure out what we all mean, why we're here and all that stuff. Yeah. He said... He's not really an active friend of mine. It was just a guy that I'd met a couple of times who said, you need to talk to this gal, Esther. She's amazing. And if you do...

if you do like a zoom meeting with her, she can sort of read what's going on with your body health wise and stuff. She'll say, you know, Oh, you need to have a look at that part of your stomach or something or whatever. But that wasn't our relationship. That wasn't the way I encountered her. We had a phone conversation and, uh,

if you do like a zoom meeting with her, she can sort of read what's going on with your body health wise and stuff. She'll say, you know, Oh, you need to have a look at that part of your stomach or something or whatever. But that wasn't our relationship. That wasn't the way I encountered her. We had a phone conversation and, uh,

I describe it in the book a little bit, but it was very funny for me because I'm a little bit, I look at this with a slightly skeptical energy. So she's from South America. She's got a bit of an accent. And Esther said, all right, give me a minute. Okay.

I describe it in the book a little bit, but it was very funny for me because I'm a little bit, I look at this with a slightly skeptical energy. So she's from South America. She's got a bit of an accent. And Esther said, all right, give me a minute. Okay.

are you relaxed yeah i'm sort of lying on the floor in one of our bedrooms in palm springs and um she said um okay i hear a little rattle some shaking of sticks i thought oh boy here we go and uh then it was just a couple minutes later she said uh Oh, your sister wants you to tell her story. Okay. Yes, Karen. Karen wants you to tell her story. So that was kind of it, really.