Kelsey Hightower

I'm going to go there.

I'm just going to disappear.

They're going to just make me work on Google stuff all day long.

What's the value in that?

I've seen the peak of this.

And they were like, we won't do that.

I was given the opportunity to do DevRel, and it's the first time I ever did it.

But DevRel represented freedom.

No tickets, no right code measured against SWE benchmarks.

I was like, I don't want that.

I want to be able to make impact.

And so the team was smart.

They were like, look, we've got this area called DevRel, and we'll let you define what you do.

Yeah, but as an entrepreneur, I know how this goes.

How does it go?

If you come in and you really do DevRel stuff, in my mind, you're going to get fired.

Because if you limit yourself to the external perception of DevRel, you go to conferences and you become more of an evangelist, you do tutorials and guides.

For me, those are activities.

I'm a person of impact.

And so the first thing I did when I got to Google was like, where's the customers?