Kelsey McKinney

My mother said, I'm sorry you weren't here because Father Sager was here visiting and he found a very nice orphanage for you. And I said, but I'm not an orphan.

My mother said, I'm sorry you weren't here because Father Sager was here visiting and he found a very nice orphanage for you. And I said, but I'm not an orphan.

Hello, Rachel. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be back.

Hello, Rachel. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be back.

I miss you. I miss you too. We haven't been on Zoom together in like at least a week, which is just insufferable and impossible. We cannot be expected to do that again.

I miss you. I miss you too. We haven't been on Zoom together in like at least a week, which is just insufferable and impossible. We cannot be expected to do that again.

It's been crazy. I've been doing so much promotion. I've been so busy. I don't sleep anymore. So that's exciting. But I'm hopeful that very soon I will hibernate. And that's going to be really nice for me to be asleep for a very long time.

It's been crazy. I've been doing so much promotion. I've been so busy. I don't sleep anymore. So that's exciting. But I'm hopeful that very soon I will hibernate. And that's going to be really nice for me to be asleep for a very long time.

Where are you going to come out of hibernation as?

Where are you going to come out of hibernation as?

Oh my God. Not physically, but I hope emotionally and mentally. I hope maybe by the end of it, I'll be able to meditate. Something I've never been able to do. Oh my God, emptying your mind? Imagine. Imagine your mind being so, so, so blank and your brain so smooth. That's what I want.

Oh my God. Not physically, but I hope emotionally and mentally. I hope maybe by the end of it, I'll be able to meditate. Something I've never been able to do. Oh my God, emptying your mind? Imagine. Imagine your mind being so, so, so blank and your brain so smooth. That's what I want.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

I do not want to say yes to that, but I feel that I don't have a choice. So go for it.

I do not want to say yes to that, but I feel that I don't have a choice. So go for it.

So this book rules. It absolutely slaps. It's so old. It's like decades old. And all it is is Phyllis Rose took like literally five Victorian marriages that were all like, you know, when we think of the Victorians, we think of like prudes. Yes. Like they hate sex. They're having no fun. They're losers, right? Cholera. Cholera. Cholera, exactly.

So this book rules. It absolutely slaps. It's so old. It's like decades old. And all it is is Phyllis Rose took like literally five Victorian marriages that were all like, you know, when we think of the Victorians, we think of like prudes. Yes. Like they hate sex. They're having no fun. They're losers, right? Cholera. Cholera. Cholera, exactly.

And Phyllis Rose writes about five alternative Victorian marriages. So people who were like living with someone when they were technically married to someone else, people who had three wives, right? All of this stuff. And it is such a like gossipy, prying book. And I think it just like, it does a great job talking about like why we care about other people's marriages.

And Phyllis Rose writes about five alternative Victorian marriages. So people who were like living with someone when they were technically married to someone else, people who had three wives, right? All of this stuff. And it is such a like gossipy, prying book. And I think it just like, it does a great job talking about like why we care about other people's marriages.