Kelsey McKinney

Like there's either questions about craft, which are basically only interesting if you are a writer or want to be a writer, or it's spoilers. And people are really anti-spoiler culture. So if you're talking to a novelist, you don't really have a choice besides to talk about either process or them personally.

Like there's either questions about craft, which are basically only interesting if you are a writer or want to be a writer, or it's spoilers. And people are really anti-spoiler culture. So if you're talking to a novelist, you don't really have a choice besides to talk about either process or them personally.

Whereas with a nonfiction book, it's easier to talk about the stuff that's actually in the book.

Whereas with a nonfiction book, it's easier to talk about the stuff that's actually in the book.

I don't know that I'm sick of it, but I feel like the question of, like, what my relationship with gossip is at this point, I've said so many times that, like, someone asked it to me recently, and I, like, zoned out halfway through and came back after I was done talking, and I was like, that's crazy. Like, I don't—who knows what I said, right?

I don't know that I'm sick of it, but I feel like the question of, like, what my relationship with gossip is at this point, I've said so many times that, like, someone asked it to me recently, and I, like, zoned out halfway through and came back after I was done talking, and I was like, that's crazy. Like, I don't—who knows what I said, right?

Exactly. Like entered like a fugue state to answer that question. It reminded me of being like a teenager, you know, when you're like in college and people keep being like, what are you going to do with your degree? And you just like create an answer. That is so like repetitive and that you're just saying the same thing over and over again that you forget you're saying it.

Exactly. Like entered like a fugue state to answer that question. It reminded me of being like a teenager, you know, when you're like in college and people keep being like, what are you going to do with your degree? And you just like create an answer. That is so like repetitive and that you're just saying the same thing over and over again that you forget you're saying it.

One of my publicists sent me this video of Lady Gaga doing press for A Star is Born. Yes. You sent me this. It's so funny. It's like four minutes of just like spliced interviews that she did of her saying the same exact quote over and over again. Just saying like there can be 100 people in the room and 99 of them don't believe in you.

One of my publicists sent me this video of Lady Gaga doing press for A Star is Born. Yes. You sent me this. It's so funny. It's like four minutes of just like spliced interviews that she did of her saying the same exact quote over and over again. Just saying like there can be 100 people in the room and 99 of them don't believe in you.

And I don't feel like I'm like at any level near that well media trained, but it is when you're answering the same question over and over again, you start to feel like a broken record a little bit.

And I don't feel like I'm like at any level near that well media trained, but it is when you're answering the same question over and over again, you start to feel like a broken record a little bit.

I think I've gotten better at answering it for sure. And I think I have realized, you know, I used to answer the question by being like, oh, well, I grew up in this way. And I, you know, stuff I've talked about on this podcast a hundred times. I grew up in this way and this is the way my relationship with gossip evolved.

I think I've gotten better at answering it for sure. And I think I have realized, you know, I used to answer the question by being like, oh, well, I grew up in this way. And I, you know, stuff I've talked about on this podcast a hundred times. I grew up in this way and this is the way my relationship with gossip evolved.

And I think I've started through this process of being asking it a lot, thinking more about like, well, what is my relationship with gossip right now? Right. What does it look like in this immediate moment? Right. And I think the answer to that is it feels very intimate. Not in the intimacy of a lifelong friend. It feels intimate in the way of a summer camp bunkmate.

And I think I've started through this process of being asking it a lot, thinking more about like, well, what is my relationship with gossip right now? Right. What does it look like in this immediate moment? Right. And I think the answer to that is it feels very intimate. Not in the intimacy of a lifelong friend. It feels intimate in the way of a summer camp bunkmate.

I didn't go to summer camp, but I assume this is what it's like. Having a freshman year roommate where it's like, I see you vomit and also I'm so tired of you. It's that kind of beautiful, I'm excited to move out and be like, I miss her. I'm having flashbacks. Yeah. Everyone has one of those roommates where it's like you have this forced intimacy because you are constantly together. Yes.

I didn't go to summer camp, but I assume this is what it's like. Having a freshman year roommate where it's like, I see you vomit and also I'm so tired of you. It's that kind of beautiful, I'm excited to move out and be like, I miss her. I'm having flashbacks. Yeah. Everyone has one of those roommates where it's like you have this forced intimacy because you are constantly together. Yes.

Which is like interesting because even if you might have chosen it by the time you're forced to be together for so long, it's like, oof.

Which is like interesting because even if you might have chosen it by the time you're forced to be together for so long, it's like, oof.