Kelsey McKinney

I personally love

I personally love

Yeah, my first book was much smaller than this book, first off, right? I had a smaller advance. It was a debut novel. I didn't have nearly as big of a platform for it. And so I didn't really do any press for it. Like we got a couple of reviews and people read it and I was so happy about that. But I didn't do any interviews about that book, basically. maybe one or two here or there.

Yeah, my first book was much smaller than this book, first off, right? I had a smaller advance. It was a debut novel. I didn't have nearly as big of a platform for it. And so I didn't really do any press for it. Like we got a couple of reviews and people read it and I was so happy about that. But I didn't do any interviews about that book, basically. maybe one or two here or there.

And it was also the summer of 2021. And so we were still not going anywhere. And so I kind of naively going into this book was like, no problem, right? Chill. I've done it before. I know how to play this game. Easy. And this is a totally different book, right? I've been doing tons of interviews because...

And it was also the summer of 2021. And so we were still not going anywhere. And so I kind of naively going into this book was like, no problem, right? Chill. I've done it before. I know how to play this game. Easy. And this is a totally different book, right? I've been doing tons of interviews because...

As we know, the topic of gossip is one that almost everyone wants to talk about almost all the time, which is great.

As we know, the topic of gossip is one that almost everyone wants to talk about almost all the time, which is great.

I'm really grateful to have done it, but it means that I have been in the mines and trapped away from you, doing interviews and preparing stuff and making a tour run of show and all of these little pieces that I think feel really separate from the writing of the book, which is really interesting because I think when you think about creative careers...

I'm really grateful to have done it, but it means that I have been in the mines and trapped away from you, doing interviews and preparing stuff and making a tour run of show and all of these little pieces that I think feel really separate from the writing of the book, which is really interesting because I think when you think about creative careers...

And when you don't have one, you think about output, right? We think about like how many podcasts come out. You don't think about all the stuff that goes in before you get to do that. And so in a book, it's kind of the opposite, right? You spend all of this time making the product.

And when you don't have one, you think about output, right? We think about like how many podcasts come out. You don't think about all the stuff that goes in before you get to do that. And so in a book, it's kind of the opposite, right? You spend all of this time making the product.

And then once the product is done, you have to completely pivot into just pitching it, which is a totally different skill.

And then once the product is done, you have to completely pivot into just pitching it, which is a totally different skill.

It's funny you say that because I don't know that I knew that before I published my novel. Like, I don't know that I ever read a novel except for maybe, like, the – Mm-hmm. And I would tell people like, well, none of it is true. And also like all of it is true. I've had every emotion in that book. Right. And so at an emotional level, it's real.

It's funny you say that because I don't know that I knew that before I published my novel. Like, I don't know that I ever read a novel except for maybe, like, the – Mm-hmm. And I would tell people like, well, none of it is true. And also like all of it is true. I've had every emotion in that book. Right. And so at an emotional level, it's real.

In terms of the events, none of it's real, which is, I think, really complicated. Like it feels uncomfortable to be made to feel something based on nothing. Right.

In terms of the events, none of it's real, which is, I think, really complicated. Like it feels uncomfortable to be made to feel something based on nothing. Right.

I think they're less personal, honestly. I think a lot of the questions I got asked about the novel were personal questions. It was about my upbringing, my experience, like that kind of stuff. Whereas with the gossip questions, we have been talking more about gossip as a construct. It's unclear to me, though, if that's like – just because it's hard to interview someone about fiction, right?

I think they're less personal, honestly. I think a lot of the questions I got asked about the novel were personal questions. It was about my upbringing, my experience, like that kind of stuff. Whereas with the gossip questions, we have been talking more about gossip as a construct. It's unclear to me, though, if that's like – just because it's hard to interview someone about fiction, right?