Kemi Badenoch
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So this is why I used the phrase moral courage, that we need to have some courage. There is a lot of fear. I think that a lot of the fear is unfounded, but there's also a sort of lack of knowledge and ignorance about how to talk about these issues. So I will often get asked, usually by mischief-making journalists, I should say, oh, this is just Muslims. Why aren't you just saying the word Muslim?
And what I tell them is that this isn't about Islam. It is about a virulent strain of Islamism. And I recognize it because I saw it in northern Nigeria. So for me, the October 7th was actually a reminder of what had happened 10 years ago in Nigeria, where 300 schoolgirls were kidnapped. And I spent one year in a school like that, like a state boarding school. They're horrible. They're like prison.
And what I tell them is that this isn't about Islam. It is about a virulent strain of Islamism. And I recognize it because I saw it in northern Nigeria. So for me, the October 7th was actually a reminder of what had happened 10 years ago in Nigeria, where 300 schoolgirls were kidnapped. And I spent one year in a school like that, like a state boarding school. They're horrible. They're like prison.
And what I tell them is that this isn't about Islam. It is about a virulent strain of Islamism. And I recognize it because I saw it in northern Nigeria. So for me, the October 7th was actually a reminder of what had happened 10 years ago in Nigeria, where 300 schoolgirls were kidnapped. And I spent one year in a school like that, like a state boarding school. They're horrible. They're like prison.
And you just want to get out. And I can just imagine being a child and some men just scoop you all away and most of you don't come back. It's absolutely horrific. This thing is not just about Israel and Palestine or Israel and Gaza. This virulent strain is hurting people across the world, including many Muslims. They are the ones who are most in danger.
And you just want to get out. And I can just imagine being a child and some men just scoop you all away and most of you don't come back. It's absolutely horrific. This thing is not just about Israel and Palestine or Israel and Gaza. This virulent strain is hurting people across the world, including many Muslims. They are the ones who are most in danger.
And you just want to get out. And I can just imagine being a child and some men just scoop you all away and most of you don't come back. It's absolutely horrific. This thing is not just about Israel and Palestine or Israel and Gaza. This virulent strain is hurting people across the world, including many Muslims. They are the ones who are most in danger.
So I talk about Islamism, like this political version of Islam, rather than people who are living their religion peacefully and minding their business. But I also, and I have this conversation with someone who was disagreeing with me and saying, if you believe in protests, you should be allowed to. And I said, what we have in this country is very special.
So I talk about Islamism, like this political version of Islam, rather than people who are living their religion peacefully and minding their business. But I also, and I have this conversation with someone who was disagreeing with me and saying, if you believe in protests, you should be allowed to. And I said, what we have in this country is very special.
So I talk about Islamism, like this political version of Islam, rather than people who are living their religion peacefully and minding their business. But I also, and I have this conversation with someone who was disagreeing with me and saying, if you believe in protests, you should be allowed to. And I said, what we have in this country is very special.
Where are the protests about Gaza in Saudi Arabia or the UAE? Because they are very muscular about what they believe people can and cannot do. they are able to control that. People there feel the same way, but they're not protesting. And yes, some of it is about not having that right. But it's also, it's about keeping certain views out of the mainstream.
Where are the protests about Gaza in Saudi Arabia or the UAE? Because they are very muscular about what they believe people can and cannot do. they are able to control that. People there feel the same way, but they're not protesting. And yes, some of it is about not having that right. But it's also, it's about keeping certain views out of the mainstream.
Where are the protests about Gaza in Saudi Arabia or the UAE? Because they are very muscular about what they believe people can and cannot do. they are able to control that. People there feel the same way, but they're not protesting. And yes, some of it is about not having that right. But it's also, it's about keeping certain views out of the mainstream.
We need to have our own version of what I call muscular liberalism, where we say these sorts of behaviors are unacceptable. And if you carry them out, you will be punished. And the big question that my speech was trying to answer is how does a creed like liberalism, which is about accepting and tolerating, how does it deal with accepting and tolerating things that want to destroy it?
We need to have our own version of what I call muscular liberalism, where we say these sorts of behaviors are unacceptable. And if you carry them out, you will be punished. And the big question that my speech was trying to answer is how does a creed like liberalism, which is about accepting and tolerating, how does it deal with accepting and tolerating things that want to destroy it?
We need to have our own version of what I call muscular liberalism, where we say these sorts of behaviors are unacceptable. And if you carry them out, you will be punished. And the big question that my speech was trying to answer is how does a creed like liberalism, which is about accepting and tolerating, how does it deal with accepting and tolerating things that want to destroy it?
If you say, yes, of course, we're going to accept and we're going to tolerate, and something says, okay, fine, I want to destroy it. But it can't be tolerant of intolerance. Exactly. And too many people just stop at the accept everything, tolerate everything. They don't know how to defend their values. And that's what I want the Conservative Party to start doing. We can't just be managers.
If you say, yes, of course, we're going to accept and we're going to tolerate, and something says, okay, fine, I want to destroy it. But it can't be tolerant of intolerance. Exactly. And too many people just stop at the accept everything, tolerate everything. They don't know how to defend their values. And that's what I want the Conservative Party to start doing. We can't just be managers.
If you say, yes, of course, we're going to accept and we're going to tolerate, and something says, okay, fine, I want to destroy it. But it can't be tolerant of intolerance. Exactly. And too many people just stop at the accept everything, tolerate everything. They don't know how to defend their values. And that's what I want the Conservative Party to start doing. We can't just be managers.
We have got to start championing and defending those people who can't speak for themselves, those who are vulnerable. The conversation cannot just be about the economic. The social and the cultural are linked with the economic, that you can't split them. If you have behaviors like that, it is going to affect your economy. It's going to affect what is being taught in schools.