Kemi Badenoch

a poster of a missing child, of missing mothers and children. And it's very obvious to me what is happening. It doesn't mean that everybody on the protest feels that way, but it's quite clear that many people used those protests as a cover for anti-Semitism. It was very clear. And that should never happen. Why did we allow it to happen is a more interesting question.

And I remember the discussions we were having at the time. And there were certainly two schools of thought. My view was that we needed to show some moral courage. The prime minister needed to come out and say this was not acceptable in October, really. Those protests started even before Israel had invaded Gaza.

And I remember the discussions we were having at the time. And there were certainly two schools of thought. My view was that we needed to show some moral courage. The prime minister needed to come out and say this was not acceptable in October, really. Those protests started even before Israel had invaded Gaza.

And I remember the discussions we were having at the time. And there were certainly two schools of thought. My view was that we needed to show some moral courage. The prime minister needed to come out and say this was not acceptable in October, really. Those protests started even before Israel had invaded Gaza.

And there's another school of thought, which I call laissez-faire, which is that, well, you shouldn't do anything because if you do that, you're stopping other people's freedoms. And actually, you know, you can't interrupt the police, let the police out.

And there's another school of thought, which I call laissez-faire, which is that, well, you shouldn't do anything because if you do that, you're stopping other people's freedoms. And actually, you know, you can't interrupt the police, let the police out.

And there's another school of thought, which I call laissez-faire, which is that, well, you shouldn't do anything because if you do that, you're stopping other people's freedoms. And actually, you know, you can't interrupt the police, let the police out.

carry out their policing and you know we just tell them what we want but the police themselves are often confused because if they're heavy-handed they get labeled as racist and then if they're not heavy-handed then you know people think that they are it's two-tier policing we need leaders we need political leaders who can say this is what's right this is what's wrong this is unacceptable but they got to the point where there were so many people because it wasn't nipped in the bud it then in my view became out of control you need to take back some of that control

carry out their policing and you know we just tell them what we want but the police themselves are often confused because if they're heavy-handed they get labeled as racist and then if they're not heavy-handed then you know people think that they are it's two-tier policing we need leaders we need political leaders who can say this is what's right this is what's wrong this is unacceptable but they got to the point where there were so many people because it wasn't nipped in the bud it then in my view became out of control you need to take back some of that control

carry out their policing and you know we just tell them what we want but the police themselves are often confused because if they're heavy-handed they get labeled as racist and then if they're not heavy-handed then you know people think that they are it's two-tier policing we need leaders we need political leaders who can say this is what's right this is what's wrong this is unacceptable but they got to the point where there were so many people because it wasn't nipped in the bud it then in my view became out of control you need to take back some of that control

So this is why I used the phrase moral courage, that we need to have some courage. There is a lot of fear. I think that a lot of the fear is unfounded, but there's also a sort of lack of knowledge and ignorance about how to talk about these issues. So I will often get asked, usually by mischief-making journalists, I should say, oh, this is just Muslims. Why aren't you just saying the word Muslim?

So this is why I used the phrase moral courage, that we need to have some courage. There is a lot of fear. I think that a lot of the fear is unfounded, but there's also a sort of lack of knowledge and ignorance about how to talk about these issues. So I will often get asked, usually by mischief-making journalists, I should say, oh, this is just Muslims. Why aren't you just saying the word Muslim?

So this is why I used the phrase moral courage, that we need to have some courage. There is a lot of fear. I think that a lot of the fear is unfounded, but there's also a sort of lack of knowledge and ignorance about how to talk about these issues. So I will often get asked, usually by mischief-making journalists, I should say, oh, this is just Muslims. Why aren't you just saying the word Muslim?

And what I tell them is that this isn't about Islam. It is about a virulent strain of Islamism. And I recognize it because I saw it in northern Nigeria. So for me, the October 7th was actually a reminder of what had happened 10 years ago in Nigeria, where 300 schoolgirls were kidnapped. And I spent one year in a school like that, like a state boarding school. They're horrible. They're like prison.

And what I tell them is that this isn't about Islam. It is about a virulent strain of Islamism. And I recognize it because I saw it in northern Nigeria. So for me, the October 7th was actually a reminder of what had happened 10 years ago in Nigeria, where 300 schoolgirls were kidnapped. And I spent one year in a school like that, like a state boarding school. They're horrible. They're like prison.

And what I tell them is that this isn't about Islam. It is about a virulent strain of Islamism. And I recognize it because I saw it in northern Nigeria. So for me, the October 7th was actually a reminder of what had happened 10 years ago in Nigeria, where 300 schoolgirls were kidnapped. And I spent one year in a school like that, like a state boarding school. They're horrible. They're like prison.

And you just want to get out. And I can just imagine being a child and some men just scoop you all away and most of you don't come back. It's absolutely horrific. This thing is not just about Israel and Palestine or Israel and Gaza. This virulent strain is hurting people across the world, including many Muslims. They are the ones who are most in danger.

And you just want to get out. And I can just imagine being a child and some men just scoop you all away and most of you don't come back. It's absolutely horrific. This thing is not just about Israel and Palestine or Israel and Gaza. This virulent strain is hurting people across the world, including many Muslims. They are the ones who are most in danger.

And you just want to get out. And I can just imagine being a child and some men just scoop you all away and most of you don't come back. It's absolutely horrific. This thing is not just about Israel and Palestine or Israel and Gaza. This virulent strain is hurting people across the world, including many Muslims. They are the ones who are most in danger.

So I talk about Islamism, like this political version of Islam, rather than people who are living their religion peacefully and minding their business. But I also, and I have this conversation with someone who was disagreeing with me and saying, if you believe in protests, you should be allowed to. And I said, what we have in this country is very special.