Kemi Badenoch

And that's something that I think is causing a lot of the infantilization of our societies and the lack of will and that moral courage to defend what is right. It's not our job. Where are our parents? They should do this. It must be somebody else's job. But it isn't. It's our job. So we had very interesting conversations about that.

what the future of conservatism will look like for our generation. You know, it's no longer Thatcher, Reagan, and all of that. The Bush era is over. And the Trump era, or Trump Mark II era, is this the beginning of a new thing? What could that look like? And just how life has changed so much for us. You know, we talked a lot about the media. And, you know, during the... Your love of it, obviously.

what the future of conservatism will look like for our generation. You know, it's no longer Thatcher, Reagan, and all of that. The Bush era is over. And the Trump era, or Trump Mark II era, is this the beginning of a new thing? What could that look like? And just how life has changed so much for us. You know, we talked a lot about the media. And, you know, during the... Your love of it, obviously.

what the future of conservatism will look like for our generation. You know, it's no longer Thatcher, Reagan, and all of that. The Bush era is over. And the Trump era, or Trump Mark II era, is this the beginning of a new thing? What could that look like? And just how life has changed so much for us. You know, we talked a lot about the media. And, you know, during the... Your love of it, obviously.

Yes. Yeah. Well, I find it so I actually I do love media. I worked in media. I used to work for The Spectator. What I don't like is lies and inaccuracy. And I don't like people creating fake news, which is a real thing. Every day I read something like that is not true. I know it is not true. But anonymous sources and so on will tell a journalist, oh, this thing that never happened, happened.

Yes. Yeah. Well, I find it so I actually I do love media. I worked in media. I used to work for The Spectator. What I don't like is lies and inaccuracy. And I don't like people creating fake news, which is a real thing. Every day I read something like that is not true. I know it is not true. But anonymous sources and so on will tell a journalist, oh, this thing that never happened, happened.

Yes. Yeah. Well, I find it so I actually I do love media. I worked in media. I used to work for The Spectator. What I don't like is lies and inaccuracy. And I don't like people creating fake news, which is a real thing. Every day I read something like that is not true. I know it is not true. But anonymous sources and so on will tell a journalist, oh, this thing that never happened, happened.

And people start believing lies. And that's what I hate. But what was interesting was we both had the same experience. So he had been messaging me in my leadership contest and vice versa. And we both had this experience.

And people start believing lies. And that's what I hate. But what was interesting was we both had the same experience. So he had been messaging me in my leadership contest and vice versa. And we both had this experience.

And people start believing lies. And that's what I hate. But what was interesting was we both had the same experience. So he had been messaging me in my leadership contest and vice versa. And we both had this experience.

At a dinner in London about 18 months ago. So Usha was there. And it was one of these sort of dinners. Here's some interesting people and we'll put them together around a table. And I told him about the experience I had where everyone... in the press kept writing about how I had lost and I couldn't win and I'm so weird.

At a dinner in London about 18 months ago. So Usha was there. And it was one of these sort of dinners. Here's some interesting people and we'll put them together around a table. And I told him about the experience I had where everyone... in the press kept writing about how I had lost and I couldn't win and I'm so weird.

At a dinner in London about 18 months ago. So Usha was there. And it was one of these sort of dinners. Here's some interesting people and we'll put them together around a table. And I told him about the experience I had where everyone... in the press kept writing about how I had lost and I couldn't win and I'm so weird.

And her opponents are seizing the initiative and they're definitely going to win and look how great they are. And it just wasn't true. And I knew it wasn't true, but my friends would say, what's happening? Why aren't you doing well? And I would tell them, don't worry, it's fine. And of course he had the exact same experience.

And her opponents are seizing the initiative and they're definitely going to win and look how great they are. And it just wasn't true. And I knew it wasn't true, but my friends would say, what's happening? Why aren't you doing well? And I would tell them, don't worry, it's fine. And of course he had the exact same experience.

And her opponents are seizing the initiative and they're definitely going to win and look how great they are. And it just wasn't true. And I knew it wasn't true, but my friends would say, what's happening? Why aren't you doing well? And I would tell them, don't worry, it's fine. And of course he had the exact same experience.

And he talked a lot about how they were fairly confident of what their polling was saying. and just ignored what the media was saying about Kamala Harris and what was happening. And it's about understanding what is reality now. How do you know what an authoritative source is when everyone is trying to make the news rather than report the news? That's the new thing in our age.

And he talked a lot about how they were fairly confident of what their polling was saying. and just ignored what the media was saying about Kamala Harris and what was happening. And it's about understanding what is reality now. How do you know what an authoritative source is when everyone is trying to make the news rather than report the news? That's the new thing in our age.

And he talked a lot about how they were fairly confident of what their polling was saying. and just ignored what the media was saying about Kamala Harris and what was happening. And it's about understanding what is reality now. How do you know what an authoritative source is when everyone is trying to make the news rather than report the news? That's the new thing in our age.

A lot of media doesn't want to observe and report. It wants to influence. It wants to be on the pitch rather than reporting.