Ken Coleman

And so we're trying to stop you from playing the shell game.

And number one, create a profitable business.

And two, get out of debt.

And that might mean a clean slate where you get rid of this mobile grooming truck, you sell it, sell the RV, you rent for a while, get rid of all your debt, create a foundation, and then start slow and with cash.

What is your yearly income from all of this after all of your expenses?

You could go work a retail job and not break your back doing this and instead get out of this completely.

Wait, so it's the money's bank.

Can you just go ahead and pay off the loan then?

Better than paying $15,000 in interest that you don't have.

Yes, Karen.

This is get out of jail here.

This is get out of jail, Karen.

I thought the damage was done and you already bought the van and did the renovations, but if you have the money sitting there.

Hit the rewind button.

The bank gave you $31,000 at 48% interest.

And you have to $31,000.

No, it's great, actually.

I like that.

Absolutely.

And what's the RV worth?