Ken Coleman

And I feel for you.

So, Michael, I'm only following up here because we've hit you with a lot, and we're both on the same page here.

Where do you think your wife is with this response that you called the show and we gave you that?

Where do you think she sits with all this?

Well, let me reframe that.

The only pain your wife should feel around this is the pain of paying the money back because you got to sacrifice.

Yeah, right.

I don't think there needs to be... I think you should come away with this going, when I make this right...

I am in good standing as a daughter.

I have fulfilled my commitment to my parents.

There shouldn't be any pain.

In fact, there ought to be an emotional joy to go, I did what was right.

The only pain is the sacrifice we teach every day on this show anyway, which is continue to walk the baby steps out.

I don't see any pain.

Am I missing something?

Well, we've all done dumb.

Well, you've heard Dave say it a million times.

We've all done dumb and stupid with money.

No shame.

And the best way to get rid of that guilt, Jade, give you the final word on that.