Ken Coleman

So one exercise for both of you that you can do tonight is to get online.

And in your area, you go on one of these job websites.

There's national boards.

Or you can go look at companies, the local companies, the tech companies, and you look at some roles.

But what you're trying to do is research and see what is entry-level tech and coding look like.

And then we could say, what is entry-level work in security, like data security or data analysts, all the things.

Get a good view of the landscape and always look for what is the lowest rung on the ladder because that's where he's going to enter.

with no experience.

So then we step back further and we say, what qualifications does he need?

And we start with, does he need a college degree?

And many times at these tech companies, you don't, but you do need some type of fundamental training.

Okay.

Sometimes we're seeing more and more where companies have their own training program.

That might be an option.

But you guys, as a young couple with one little one and another one on the way and very little income, and you guys are out schlepping pizzas and delivering food, and I appreciate the hustle.

There's no shame in that.

I don't dishonor that.

But I am saying you need more, and you agree.

That's why you called us.

So this becomes an urgent research project.