Ken Hinkley

And that is purely around a strong Essendon backbone.

And that's what it looks like.

And it looks like with the people involved at the moment, that's the way they're going to

They're going to sail this ship and good on them for having a course and having a direction they want to take.

It'll be challenging.

I don't think it's impossible, but it would be challenging.

And James himself said last night he's been doing some stuff at Port Melbourne for three or four years.

And so he's kept his mind in footy, clearly.

He's kept his mind in Essendon.

There's no doubt about that.

So, you know...

The art of coaching is not one person, Gerard.

So it's the art of coaching is as a team and a collective of people and getting the very, very best people.

I think that's the, you know, if that's your starting point, the coach can be successful whether he's been in it for five minutes or whether he hasn't been in it for 10 years or he's been in it,

Like me for the last 13 years and like a John Longmire or like Adam Simpson.

So, you know, there's plenty of options that you can do it different ways.

But the reality of all those people is they need a group of people surrounding them to make sure it's a really strong team because it's not just a coach.

Unfortunately, that's what happens in our game.

The coach is the one who...

whose head is on the line and he gets replaced.