Ken Hinkley

Walsh is still at a good level.

Mackay is not that anymore.

So, I mean, it's very difficult.

And then when you've made the decisions that they've made for the future of the list, which I think probably is going to age okay with Tassie coming in, provided they nail their draft picks and get the trade period and the draft right.

He was always going to have a difficult task this year, but it just can't be one and eight.

That's the problem.

At some point, you're going to have to win, and you're going to have to win against teams that you should be beating.

St Kilda, you should be beating or at least highly competitive against these sides.

So no one expected them to go to Brisbane and win, so that was a birdie last night, that performance, because of expectation.

But it's when you come up against Richmond and St Kilda and Melbourne and Port Adelaide, these are the

the games that you're going to have to win.

And unfortunately, if they'd won three wins, it's a different conversation than you having had one won in the way that they've done it.

But you're right, it does buy them a bit of time if they're going to be as competitive as that last night.

If there was a mid-season trade period, how good would it be, is what I thought.

What Carlton could do...

in terms of cashing in on a desperate team that is in the premiership window.

I look at Adelaide.

What would Adelaide give for Harry Mackay right now in the mid-season trade period?

What would Collingwood give for Harry?

And how could Carlton exploit the desperation of a team that wants to win the premiership this year?