Ken Hinkley

So there's been lots of change around it because at some point, someone in that organisation gets really impatient or really unhappy and they fire the gun and that gets someone, that lands on someone and then it sets you back.

That's the problem.

The first thing I said, my view was the first thing you can provide is strong stability.

at an environment.

Now, and I remember saying this to Port at the time when I signed in 2012, the end of 2012, it was like, I won't accept anything less than a four-year deal because otherwise in two years' time we'll be back here.

because we were at a ground zero place of five wins in a season.

We weren't going – the club was in not a great place, had lost the players.

The player had lost his life, unfortunately, in a pre-season, and we hadn't had maybe staff to coach.

So my first thought was you've just got to provide stability and you've got to get complete trust with the main people involved, and that's what I was lucky enough to get.

David, Keith, and myself, when we first went in there, we were on the same page that good people –

and stability were the critical pieces to success, and invest in your footy program.

Not rip your footy program.

Invest in your footy program.

Bring in good people.

Hopefully guide them in what's good practice and best practice and enjoy the trip.

Anyone would take the opportunity to.

If you're a coaching person, you take the opportunity to coach.

Now, it's harder for me to answer because people go straight away, oh, he wants to coach Carlton or he doesn't want to coach Carlton.

I'm not prepared to go black and white and say this is what.

There's a lot more facts you need to gather before you would make a decision around who you do and don't want to coach, you know.