Ken Joslin

I mentioned to you, I've lost about 102 pounds of body fat in five and a half, six years.

Well, Gary Braca has been one of my closest friends for five.

Well, I just picked the phone up and I just text Gary.

The first time I ever stepped, we talked about refereeing basketball together just earlier.

In 1993, I'd refereed two years of Park and Rec, and somebody came up to me and goes, hey, man, you need to call Doc and Nan Sisk.

They run the local high school group.

You would be great doing high school basketball.

And I'm like 22, 23-ish years.

And I'm like, great.

So I sign up.

I go to our first high school camp in the summer.

I step on this high school floor and they're like, Sally Bell, this is Ken Jocelyn.

Sally's going to be your clinician for the next three days.

Great.

Well, little did I know Sally Bell is the most decorated women's official in the history of basketball.

14 Final Fours, the woman chosen for the WNBA, supervisor of officials for the WNBA.

And when she retired and stepped off the floor about eight years ago, she took over the SEC coordinator of officials and six other Division I conferences.

She's who taught me how to referee.

How do you how do you not become a good official when you got somebody like Sally, Doc, Nan, who worked the 2000 Olympics in Greece?

Sally worked the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta.