Ken Joslin

I mean, the best of the best of the best taught me how to officiate.

How do you not be good?

I was doing things in officiating in my second, third and fourth years working college basketball in five years.

Like nobody was doing that.

Well, look who I learned from.

Like, who do you have?

And people are like, Ken, I don't have those relationships.

When the reason I was able to grow one of the largest youth ministries in America is God put me in proximity with the best people in the world.

And I made relationships with them.

I'm like, man, I need to know what you know.

I need to spend time with you because what the vision that God's put in my heart to build, and I don't care what it is.

You can sell widgets.

You can sell coaching.

You can be an official.

I don't, you can be a trash truck or a teacher.

I don't care.

Who's the best people in the world that do what you do?

My whole team knows here.

Listen, you find the two or three best people on the planet that do what you do and you build a relationship with them.

You and I were talking about AI.