Ken Lawson
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And then when he came back here, he would have to be quarantined in the jail before he could even come to court. The next question was, are we going to get a judge that's going to listen?
And then when he came back here, he would have to be quarantined in the jail before he could even come to court. The next question was, are we going to get a judge that's going to listen?
His family, yeah, filled up the courtroom. And what was odd is, it's a lot of times, you know, when you have someone charged with a serious crime, you know, some departments of public safety overflow the courtroom with deputies, right? Like, this is a scary person, right?
His family, yeah, filled up the courtroom. And what was odd is, it's a lot of times, you know, when you have someone charged with a serious crime, you know, some departments of public safety overflow the courtroom with deputies, right? Like, this is a scary person, right?
So when we first get there, I mean, they are extremely mean to the attorneys, very mean to one of our volunteer attorneys, very mean to the family members. These are the deputies, right? who believed, at least from my perception, believed that Ian was guilty. And the hearing, as you said, lasted all day, and they had to stay there. They, being the deputies, had to stay there all day.
So when we first get there, I mean, they are extremely mean to the attorneys, very mean to one of our volunteer attorneys, very mean to the family members. These are the deputies, right? who believed, at least from my perception, believed that Ian was guilty. And the hearing, as you said, lasted all day, and they had to stay there. They, being the deputies, had to stay there all day.
And you could see the more that they heard that evidence, the nicer they started becoming with the family members. The more they heard that evidence, right, the more human they seemed to become.
And you could see the more that they heard that evidence, the nicer they started becoming with the family members. The more they heard that evidence, right, the more human they seemed to become.
I think he knew that he was supposed to be coming back for a hearing. He didn't know that he was coming back so soon because he was in quarantine. The Department of Public Services has to fly out to get him and bring him back. And they were saying because of the COVID rules that he would have to stay in quarantine there.
I think he knew that he was supposed to be coming back for a hearing. He didn't know that he was coming back so soon because he was in quarantine. The Department of Public Services has to fly out to get him and bring him back. And they were saying because of the COVID rules that he would have to stay in quarantine there.
And then when he came back here, he would have to be quarantined in the jail before he could even come to court. The next question was, are we going to get a judge that's going to listen?
And then when he came back here, he would have to be quarantined in the jail before he could even come to court. The next question was, are we going to get a judge that's going to listen?
So somebody's lying, right? Go back and look. I had the students that don't read the transcripts, read the police reports. The transcripts aren't going to tell you what's not in the evidence. The transcripts are going to tell you what came in the evidence. Not all the shit that didn't come in. You have to read the police reports. Go back to the police reports, read them carefully.
So somebody's lying, right? Go back and look. I had the students that don't read the transcripts, read the police reports. The transcripts aren't going to tell you what's not in the evidence. The transcripts are going to tell you what came in the evidence. Not all the shit that didn't come in. You have to read the police reports. Go back to the police reports, read them carefully.
And that's how you start reinvestigating a case.
And that's how you start reinvestigating a case.
So somebody's lying, right? Go back and look. I had the students that don't read the transcripts, read the police reports. The transcripts aren't going to tell you what's not in the evidence. The transcripts are going to tell you what came in the evidence. Not all the shit that didn't come in. You have to read the police reports. Go back to the police reports, read them carefully.
So somebody's lying, right? Go back and look. I had the students that don't read the transcripts, read the police reports. The transcripts aren't going to tell you what's not in the evidence. The transcripts are going to tell you what came in the evidence. Not all the shit that didn't come in. You have to read the police reports. Go back to the police reports, read them carefully.
And that's how you start reinvestigating a case.
And that's how you start reinvestigating a case.