Ken Lawson

So when we talked to them, they're like, you know, it's an ongoing investigation. I'm like, you know, did y'all arrest him? You couldn't really tell.

So when we talked to them, they're like, you know, it's an ongoing investigation. I'm like, you know, did y'all arrest him? You couldn't really tell.

So after they responded the way they did that morning, I sent, you know, we contacted the court bailiff. He told the judge what was going on. The judge told us all to meet at 420 because he's in the jury trial. So at 420, we're on the Zoom with the judge. And now the judge has already searched through all of his, he gets a report on everybody locked up in the state.

So after they responded the way they did that morning, I sent, you know, we contacted the court bailiff. He told the judge what was going on. The judge told us all to meet at 420 because he's in the jury trial. So at 420, we're on the Zoom with the judge. And now the judge has already searched through all of his, he gets a report on everybody locked up in the state.

So he's already searched that, right? And so he asked why, you know, what's going on? We tell him. And so he says, you know, I searched. He's not locked up. And he turns to the prosecutor. Do you have him? That's when they said, yeah, I know we can't come on and go investigation. And then that's when the judge told him. He said, what?

So he's already searched that, right? And so he asked why, you know, what's going on? We tell him. And so he says, you know, I searched. He's not locked up. And he turns to the prosecutor. Do you have him? That's when they said, yeah, I know we can't come on and go investigation. And then that's when the judge told him. He said, what?

What are you investigating that you can't say about whether or not he's in custody? How is that so important to the investigation, whether you got him or not? And so they just kept saying to the judge, we can't comment on ongoing investigation. So then we get off the Zoom. We're on the Zoom with the judge for like maybe 45 minutes, going back and forth on this.

What are you investigating that you can't say about whether or not he's in custody? How is that so important to the investigation, whether you got him or not? And so they just kept saying to the judge, we can't comment on ongoing investigation. So then we get off the Zoom. We're on the Zoom with the judge for like maybe 45 minutes, going back and forth on this.

We get off the Zoom, and then we meet. And Kramer's in a meeting too, right? So we're talking to Kramer, and all of us are meeting. And, you know, at one point, you know, we had been on there for a while, so at one point people were saying, you know what, Who all thinks that he's in custody? Raise your hand. It's like eight of us on the legal team. Who all thinks that he fled?

We get off the Zoom, and then we meet. And Kramer's in a meeting too, right? So we're talking to Kramer, and all of us are meeting. And, you know, at one point, you know, we had been on there for a while, so at one point people were saying, you know what, Who all thinks that he's in custody? Raise your hand. It's like eight of us on the legal team. Who all thinks that he fled?

Because there's some evidence that he may have spent 10 years on Christmas Island right after this happened from one of his kids' Facebook posts. And so then people are like, who thinks he's dead?

Because there's some evidence that he may have spent 10 years on Christmas Island right after this happened from one of his kids' Facebook posts. And so then people are like, who thinks he's dead?

So I said, you know what, I'm going to call them more. So Bill Harrison said, well, you know, we only have one mortgage in Honolulu. When he said we only have, he meant the entire state. So he said anybody that dies on the big island is going to be in Honolulu. So next morning, I called Honolulu. And I'm like, you know, and I don't say Honolulu. I want to know if you have the body.

So I said, you know what, I'm going to call them more. So Bill Harrison said, well, you know, we only have one mortgage in Honolulu. When he said we only have, he meant the entire state. So he said anybody that dies on the big island is going to be in Honolulu. So next morning, I called Honolulu. And I'm like, you know, and I don't say Honolulu. I want to know if you have the body.

I come in like I presume you do, right? Because I don't want them lying to me. So I'm like, you know, can you tell me when you're going to release the body? Can you tell me when you're going to release the body? Something like that. And she refers me to the Hilo Police Department. But she also, like, she looks at, she says, we don't have him here, right?

I come in like I presume you do, right? Because I don't want them lying to me. So I'm like, you know, can you tell me when you're going to release the body? Can you tell me when you're going to release the body? Something like that. And she refers me to the Hilo Police Department. But she also, like, she looks at, she says, we don't have him here, right?

And then, but she's like, you know, Hilo would have him at the police department. And I find out that it was a Tuesday that they had taken. And so I called the Hilo Police Department. And the guy answers, and it's a young officer, and he's like, professional standards. And I'm like, you know, I'm looking. I want to know when you're going to release the body of Albert Lord Jr.

And then, but she's like, you know, Hilo would have him at the police department. And I find out that it was a Tuesday that they had taken. And so I called the Hilo Police Department. And the guy answers, and it's a young officer, and he's like, professional standards. And I'm like, you know, I'm looking. I want to know when you're going to release the body of Albert Lord Jr.

He's like, well, but maybe I can help you. You know, can you spell the last name or something? So I give him the last name. And then he puts me on hold. And, you know, I'm paranoid like you wouldn't believe. Because I'm like, when she told me I had to call the police department, I'm like, oh, shit. You know, I don't care what the chief tells you, right?

He's like, well, but maybe I can help you. You know, can you spell the last name or something? So I give him the last name. And then he puts me on hold. And, you know, I'm paranoid like you wouldn't believe. Because I'm like, when she told me I had to call the police department, I'm like, oh, shit. You know, I don't care what the chief tells you, right?