Ken Lawson

In 1991, when this happens, and you find a body on a fishing trail. And Albert Laurel lives right near there. And you're trying to solve this crime. You're gonna go talk to the neighbors and go, you know, tell me who frequents this fishing trail? Who comes down here and fishes a lot? Can you tell me? They may have seen something. I want to go talk to him. Do you go over there?

In 1991, when this happens, and you find a body on a fishing trail. And Albert Laurel lives right near there. And you're trying to solve this crime. You're gonna go talk to the neighbors and go, you know, tell me who frequents this fishing trail? Who comes down here and fishes a lot? Can you tell me? They may have seen something. I want to go talk to him. Do you go over there?

Like, do you know who does? Now, somebody down there who knows Albert, because they're all together, would say, hey, man, Albert goes over there. I mean, that's all he do. That's how he makes a living. He fish. So he may have seen something.

Like, do you know who does? Now, somebody down there who knows Albert, because they're all together, would say, hey, man, Albert goes over there. I mean, that's all he do. That's how he makes a living. He fish. So he may have seen something.

Because we didn't want anybody saying that they were tampering with witnesses. So let's say we tell them. hey, man, we found the guy, you know what I mean? And then something happens to him, right? We don't want anybody to be able to say that if our clients was connected to him, that somehow they tipped him off or whatever, you know what I mean?

Because we didn't want anybody saying that they were tampering with witnesses. So let's say we tell them. hey, man, we found the guy, you know what I mean? And then something happens to him, right? We don't want anybody to be able to say that if our clients was connected to him, that somehow they tipped him off or whatever, you know what I mean?

So it makes it a lot cleaner to say they didn't know anything about this. So it protects them from all these types of different conspiracy allegations.

So it makes it a lot cleaner to say they didn't know anything about this. So it protects them from all these types of different conspiracy allegations.

And then when we were, like I said, we had an agreement with the lab. And I think, I don't know if, they must have known, I don't know why, but we had an agreement with the lab that whenever they test tonight, and they had to notify both parties at the same time, Hilo and us.

And then when we were, like I said, we had an agreement with the lab. And I think, I don't know if, they must have known, I don't know why, but we had an agreement with the lab that whenever they test tonight, and they had to notify both parties at the same time, Hilo and us.

And so, you know, Wednesday, the 24th, I think it was, I'm in my office, and then, bing, you know, I get the email alert, and I look at it, and there's a lab report, and I'm reading it. And it says that they swabbed him on Friday, July 19th. And I'm looking at, and the lab gets it on Tuesday, the 23rd. And they tested, and within 24 hours, they're able to come back.

And so, you know, Wednesday, the 24th, I think it was, I'm in my office, and then, bing, you know, I get the email alert, and I look at it, and there's a lab report, and I'm reading it. And it says that they swabbed him on Friday, July 19th. And I'm looking at, and the lab gets it on Tuesday, the 23rd. And they tested, and within 24 hours, they're able to come back.

But it doesn't look like they've taken him into custody.

But it doesn't look like they've taken him into custody.

I'm on the phone. I'm like, look, this lab report. He's thinking I'm talking about the one from July 1st. You know, so he keeps talking over. I'm like, no, I'm not talking. I said, Barry, I just sent you the lab report. Will you please open it and read it? And then he opens it and reads it. And then we start calling the prosecutor. You know what the hell's going on. We're leaving messages.

I'm on the phone. I'm like, look, this lab report. He's thinking I'm talking about the one from July 1st. You know, so he keeps talking over. I'm like, no, I'm not talking. I said, Barry, I just sent you the lab report. Will you please open it and read it? And then he opens it and reads it. And then we start calling the prosecutor. You know what the hell's going on. We're leaving messages.

We're sending emails. They're not responding. This is Wednesday. On Thursday, I sent an email that had been written by Barry. that talks about the suicide concern, you know, is he in custody and all that, because we send it to the, we copy the AG on it, we copy the judge, we send it to the judge, and send it to the prosecutors. Sent it that morning.

We're sending emails. They're not responding. This is Wednesday. On Thursday, I sent an email that had been written by Barry. that talks about the suicide concern, you know, is he in custody and all that, because we send it to the, we copy the AG on it, we copy the judge, we send it to the judge, and send it to the prosecutors. Sent it that morning.

Within five minutes, the prosecutors call him, right? And the next thing we know, the judge sets a conference for Thursday. By this time, I've already searched the jails. He's not in there. You could tell from the, it didn't say that they took him into custody in the DNA report. And the prosecutors wouldn't tell us. They just kept saying, we can't tell you, right?

Within five minutes, the prosecutors call him, right? And the next thing we know, the judge sets a conference for Thursday. By this time, I've already searched the jails. He's not in there. You could tell from the, it didn't say that they took him into custody in the DNA report. And the prosecutors wouldn't tell us. They just kept saying, we can't tell you, right?