Kevin Eikenberry

Yeah, that's 100%. In fact, I would say that if there were no change, We wouldn't need leaders. Now, we might still need managers, but we wouldn't need leaders because leadership at the end of the day is about reaching valuable outcomes, which means that we're moving to a place that we aren't currently.

Yeah, that's 100%. In fact, I would say that if there were no change, We wouldn't need leaders. Now, we might still need managers, but we wouldn't need leaders because leadership at the end of the day is about reaching valuable outcomes, which means that we're moving to a place that we aren't currently.

So whether the change is external or not, right, even if there were less external change, unless your situation as a leader was positive, perfect. Your team was doing everything that they could possibly do. And you're reaching every possible goal and outcome that you have in mind. There's still leadership. And since that's not going to happen, right?

So whether the change is external or not, right, even if there were less external change, unless your situation as a leader was positive, perfect. Your team was doing everything that they could possibly do. And you're reaching every possible goal and outcome that you have in mind. There's still leadership. And since that's not going to happen, right?

There's always the need for leadership to move us closer and moving toward to set that objective. And to keep doing the things it takes to move towards it. And that's not even thinking about all the other external changes that we know are a big part of what we're about.

There's always the need for leadership to move us closer and moving toward to set that objective. And to keep doing the things it takes to move towards it. And that's not even thinking about all the other external changes that we know are a big part of what we're about.

Yeah, I don't think there's any question that change is an omnipresent and ever probably more important piece of our role as a leader. And therefore, it makes your show so useful to leaders around the world.

Yeah, I don't think there's any question that change is an omnipresent and ever probably more important piece of our role as a leader. And therefore, it makes your show so useful to leaders around the world.

Yeah, I would say that it is more three-dimensional than a flat jigsaw puzzle. And secondly, I would say that it... I don't think I can write new things that aren't connected to in some way what I already know about leadership and that I've in many cases written about. And so there's no doubt that there's connective tissue to other stuff I've written.

Yeah, I would say that it is more three-dimensional than a flat jigsaw puzzle. And secondly, I would say that it... I don't think I can write new things that aren't connected to in some way what I already know about leadership and that I've in many cases written about. And so there's no doubt that there's connective tissue to other stuff I've written.

And yet, as I said earlier, it does completely stand on its own. You certainly don't have to have read anything else I've written to have it make sense. There are a few places where I tie back to things that I've written or said in other books. But it really is, it does set on its own.

And yet, as I said earlier, it does completely stand on its own. You certainly don't have to have read anything else I've written to have it make sense. There are a few places where I tie back to things that I've written or said in other books. But it really is, it does set on its own.

And it's defining a new way to think about leadership that, as I said earlier, I don't think has been quite described in the way that I'm describing it here. And I know that's a bold statement given all that's been written about leadership over the years. Much of it written by people that I know and value, right? It is the evolution of my thinking to this point.

And it's defining a new way to think about leadership that, as I said earlier, I don't think has been quite described in the way that I'm describing it here. And I know that's a bold statement given all that's been written about leadership over the years. Much of it written by people that I know and value, right? It is the evolution of my thinking to this point.

It's the evolution of my observations about leadership. And it's the evolution of my own leadership practice put into a format that people can use, I hope, practically.

It's the evolution of my observations about leadership. And it's the evolution of my own leadership practice put into a format that people can use, I hope, practically.

I'll answer that, but I want to say something else that's really important about change in general, and that is so often... When we're leading a change or even thinking about change, we say, oh my gosh, everything is different. And the reality is it's almost never all different.

I'll answer that, but I want to say something else that's really important about change in general, and that is so often... When we're leading a change or even thinking about change, we say, oh my gosh, everything is different. And the reality is it's almost never all different.

And in fact, we make the change efforts harder when we only talk about what's changing and don't talk about what's the same. So the first thing I think is an important point is that we're introducing a new process in our organization. And one of the most important things we can do is say, okay, there's 12 steps in this process and we are drastically changing four of them.

And in fact, we make the change efforts harder when we only talk about what's changing and don't talk about what's the same. So the first thing I think is an important point is that we're introducing a new process in our organization. And one of the most important things we can do is say, okay, there's 12 steps in this process and we are drastically changing four of them.