Kevin Kelly

And so I find it just boring in that way.

That wasn't true of the internet.

We could talk about all kinds of things on the internet.

You didn't have to talk about money.

And AI is the same kind of thing.

So generally, it's a tool.

Money is a tool.

I like Tim O'Reilly's little definition of what money is.

It's like gasoline for your car.

And the purpose of the gasoline for the car is to drive around.

But you're not driving around the gas stations to see how much gas you can get.

It's a means to do things.

And for me, that's what it is.

And I have had the privilege of hanging around billionaires.

multi-billionaires.

And what I've observed is that in most cases, having money at that level is completely imprisoning and a burden.

Yeah, yeah.

Basically, I would say right now, one of my pieces of advice to your listeners is that they should try as hard as they possibly can to never have a billion dollars.

I have a couple hundred million, just don't have a billion.

What's the difference between those two?