Kevin Kelly

And then when they're done, wait until they're done, you say, is there more?

And there's usually more.

And then they go a second round.

You listen all the way through.

And this is active listening, meaning that you are engaged.

You are not just a recording machine.

You're probing.

You're encouraging.

And then you wait until there's a third round of, is there more?

And what's interesting about that is that because it's active listening, is that the other person needs the listener to help them say it.

They almost can't say it without that active listening.

And so you are able to arrive at understandings and truths and honesty that neither one could get to by themselves.

And that ability to take the rule of three and say, is there more, is there more, is there more, is very, very powerful.

And oftentimes that explanation and going through that process to the third level is hugely benefit to the person talking because they needed that person to get it out of them and often is enough to actualize change.

I think I said it was a white person who said it, and it was actually Rumi, the Afghan poet Rumi, which is that before you say something about someone else particularly, is you want to ask yourself, is it true?

Is it... Necessary, I think.

Kind.

Yeah.

True, necessary, and kind, right.

Right.