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Kevin McKernan

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1467 total appearances

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Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

We found it in both biopsies, but it was the same person, two different time points. But actually, we had three time points. They all had it. But the sequencing was only done on the first and last biopsy. But we do have to see if there's a trend here. If they keep finding this plasmid in other biopsies from people with turbo cancer, okay, that starts to build a thesis here.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

And then they have to go and review which labs are making these. Did this come from Pfizer or did this come from one of these labs that are studying VOCs? And what does that mean for how we think about gain-of-function research in the future? Yeah. Gain of function is such a funny name. It's like... It's gain of death. It's gain of death. The function is human death, right? Yeah, exactly.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

And then they have to go and review which labs are making these. Did this come from Pfizer or did this come from one of these labs that are studying VOCs? And what does that mean for how we think about gain-of-function research in the future? Yeah. Gain of function is such a funny name. It's like... It's gain of death. It's gain of death. The function is human death, right? Yeah, exactly.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

And then they have to go and review which labs are making these. Did this come from Pfizer or did this come from one of these labs that are studying VOCs? And what does that mean for how we think about gain-of-function research in the future? Yeah. Gain of function is such a funny name. It's like... It's gain of death. It's gain of death. The function is human death, right? Yeah, exactly.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

This is, as Elon said, this is not... That whole biodefense industry never makes biodefense with health. This is where it goes. They got themselves in a corner trying to... fabricate risk to scare the population into funding this biodefense thing. And lo and behold, the first product out of the biodefense department is this plague.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

This is, as Elon said, this is not... That whole biodefense industry never makes biodefense with health. This is where it goes. They got themselves in a corner trying to... fabricate risk to scare the population into funding this biodefense thing. And lo and behold, the first product out of the biodefense department is this plague.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

This is, as Elon said, this is not... That whole biodefense industry never makes biodefense with health. This is where it goes. They got themselves in a corner trying to... fabricate risk to scare the population into funding this biodefense thing. And lo and behold, the first product out of the biodefense department is this plague.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

Now, as I said earlier, I don't think this particular coronavirus was very deadly. I didn't like getting it. And yeah, it knocked a lot of people out of the workforce. It had an impact. It's not necessarily a clean story that it caused all of the excess mortality that we attribute to COVID. I think the vaccine caused more of it.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

Now, as I said earlier, I don't think this particular coronavirus was very deadly. I didn't like getting it. And yeah, it knocked a lot of people out of the workforce. It had an impact. It's not necessarily a clean story that it caused all of the excess mortality that we attribute to COVID. I think the vaccine caused more of it.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

Now, as I said earlier, I don't think this particular coronavirus was very deadly. I didn't like getting it. And yeah, it knocked a lot of people out of the workforce. It had an impact. It's not necessarily a clean story that it caused all of the excess mortality that we attribute to COVID. I think the vaccine caused more of it.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

So oftentimes our response to the fear is more deadly than what they've built. That doesn't mean they can't make something worse later. But a general principle in virology is that very lethal viruses don't transmit very far. They don't do what? They don't transmit very far. It's this Mueller's ratchet phenomenon that if the virus is very lethal, it kills the host before it moves.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

So oftentimes our response to the fear is more deadly than what they've built. That doesn't mean they can't make something worse later. But a general principle in virology is that very lethal viruses don't transmit very far. They don't do what? They don't transmit very far. It's this Mueller's ratchet phenomenon that if the virus is very lethal, it kills the host before it moves.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

So oftentimes our response to the fear is more deadly than what they've built. That doesn't mean they can't make something worse later. But a general principle in virology is that very lethal viruses don't transmit very far. They don't do what? They don't transmit very far. It's this Mueller's ratchet phenomenon that if the virus is very lethal, it kills the host before it moves.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

So viruses evolve to keep people in circulation so that you're minimally affected. That way you can spread it to five or ten people. So respiratory viruses kind of end up in that way. That's how Omicron probably came about. And so it's unlikely you're going to have something like Ebola that's so deadly that it's going to go very far. It's going to kill people so quickly.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

So viruses evolve to keep people in circulation so that you're minimally affected. That way you can spread it to five or ten people. So respiratory viruses kind of end up in that way. That's how Omicron probably came about. And so it's unlikely you're going to have something like Ebola that's so deadly that it's going to go very far. It's going to kill people so quickly.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

So viruses evolve to keep people in circulation so that you're minimally affected. That way you can spread it to five or ten people. So respiratory viruses kind of end up in that way. That's how Omicron probably came about. And so it's unlikely you're going to have something like Ebola that's so deadly that it's going to go very far. It's going to kill people so quickly.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

Cancer is a different story, though. You know, when you get viruses that cause cancer, those can take a year. And if there is any sign of there being transmissibility with it, well, then you have a whole year where you could probably be transmitting this before cancer takes you out, right? Yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

Cancer is a different story, though. You know, when you get viruses that cause cancer, those can take a year. And if there is any sign of there being transmissibility with it, well, then you have a whole year where you could probably be transmitting this before cancer takes you out, right? Yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

Cancer is a different story, though. You know, when you get viruses that cause cancer, those can take a year. And if there is any sign of there being transmissibility with it, well, then you have a whole year where you could probably be transmitting this before cancer takes you out, right? Yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast
#270 - DNA Expert Warns of Mysterious New 'Turbo Cancer' Outbreak | Kevin McKernan

So there's when you get involved with viruses of cancer, you got you got to pay a little bit more close attention to them, which is why I think when they start injecting vaccines and things like this that aren't properly characterized and they could have viruses like an entire SV40 virus that they had in the polio vaccine.