Kevin Nolan

So NASA are putting all their intention to getting boots on the moon by 2030.

But the problem actually is SpaceX's lunar lander is the height nearly of Liberty Hall.

It's 50 meters tall.

It's ridiculously big.

And they haven't been able to complete it in time.

So the hope is that they've now asked Blue Origin as well to build another lander, a smaller one.

And now NASA are basically putting up a competition between SpaceX and Blue Origin to build a lander, get it into orbit next year.

And then whoever wins that race, they'll use that lander to get people down to the moon by 2028.

But every analyst is saying that's too ambitious.

There's no way.

That's the goal.

By about 2035 to have a lunar base on the South Pole region because China are intending the same as well.

No.

And in fact, there's an awful lot of international law to be rewritten to determine this.

Currently, everybody kind of obeys the 1967 aerospace treaty.

But actually, Artemis has this thing called the Artemis Accords, which they wrote, which echoes the 1967 treaty, which says nobody owns the moon and nobody can exploit it without it being for a generalized kind of common good with common agreement to do it environmentally sustainably.

So Artemis has very lofty principles.

goals there.

But the only issue I'll say is they were written pre-Trump.

And the thing is, is that like, you know, as we know, Trump is a very ambitious, very kind of to the point sort of person.