Kevin Roberts

will eliminate the national tax burden, income tax burden on that married couple.

We don't go quite that far.

But there, in a society that resembles more the pluralism of the United States, there is hopefulness.

So we believe what needs to happen is that Congress should basically plus up the Trump accounts

to include an incentive for marriage, a $2,500 tax credit for men and women who get married by the age of 30.

And then we want to expand the adoption tax credit, which is $17,260 to include natural births for those families.

We still want people to adopt.

If you and your wife decide you want to go adopt a child, there is a $17,000 tax credit.

Several years ago.

I forget which year, but it's been on the tax code for a long time.

What we're arguing is that take that same concept.

We still want, of course, people to adopt, even more people to adopt.

It actually would probably help both of these pieces of data.

But take that same part of the tax code and expand it to births, natural births.

for a married couple.

That's real money that probably begins to change behavior.

Does it get the fertility rate from where it is now, 1.58, to replacement rate 2.1 on its own?

No.

But if you have the president and his entire administration talking about the beauty of marriage and family, if you eliminate all the disincentives in our safety net programs toward marriage, you probably start knocking on the door of the replacement rate over 10 or 15 or 20 years.

We have four.