Kevin Roberts

And that's because we want to make sure that we are free to do independent research and solutions.

And we're going to posit our research, our solutions first, and then people who want to support that financially can come in after the fact.

We still, of course, value input and feedback and all that, but it's not going to change what we say or how we go about it.

Our expectation at Heritage in any situation like this, including this one, obviously, is full transparency.

And my friend, Congressman Clay Higgins, he's a congressman from my hometown of Lafayette, Louisiana, has been thoughtful in saying, yes, you do that, but you also have to make sure that you protect kids.

innocent lives, whether they be victims who've chosen not to be named and identified, or people who might be wrongly accused of wrongdoing.

And as long as you can achieve transparency with that, that always needs to be the gold standard.

Any administration or congressional leadership that falls short of that is not doing an A-plus job.

I did, because I'm close to everyday Americans.

I spend as little time in Washington, D.C.

as I can.

because it is a place where the water really does taste differently.

And so not just because of my job, but through my own hobbies, I'm out talking to everyday people, and they knew something was wrong there, to state the obvious, and they knew that something needed to be done.

And if people perceive that there isn't full transparency, all that's going to do in our media environment is just sustain the controversy, right?

Yeah, but I'll say about him, with respect to him in his office, that that kind of thing doesn't help.

Because if, on the one hand, you're going to call for transparency, which we do at Heritage, you also need the policymakers to be serious and sober about this.

No one's threatening his life.

And so I would caution Mr. Massey, anyone in Congress, about being too cute with something that the Americans want to get to the bottom of.

Go focus on the transparency.

Don't see this as an opportunity to make X posts, and let's get to the bottom of it.