Kevin Roberts

I'll leave personnel decisions to the president.

He's gotten them right.

For us, if transparency was right on day one, it's right on this day.

And I think that's the way out of this.

We have.

We've done that since 1980 when President-elect Reagan asked Ed Fulner at Heritage to help him with that.

And it's grown from putting together, in that case, about 300 names for a somewhat lower number of open positions to what we did in 2024 with 110 other conservative organizations, which is a massive database that

Oh, God, it's not only you.

And that's why I think this time around it's been so successful because it was conservative movement-wide.

A lot of organizations, not just Heritage, deserve credit for that.

How does that help me understand?

I don't even know how you guys do that.

How do you do that?

Through our networks, people who are adjacent to us in the work we do daily in Washington, but also for Heritage because we're out in the country more than we are in Washington.

People have served in state governments or they have a competency or expertise in a particular government agency.

And we get their resumes and we vet them.

And then we also do training for them for the potential job.

We do some of that for our database just so we can know if there are any issues there.

Obviously, if the president chooses to tap someone, they go through the FBI background check, which is even more significant.

The reason it worked this time so well is because there were so many organizations that were part of this.