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Kevin Weil

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

I would love to make it over time less of a thing.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And I think over time it is.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

If you go back a year or two, everybody was talking about prompt engineering and it was going to be the skill that everybody had to master in order to do anything with AI.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

You don't hear it talked about quite as much like that.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And I think that's a good thing.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

Ideally, it matters less and less that for any particular user, if they have a question, they want an AI to do something for them.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

You shouldn't need to get into like arcana around, did I use the exact right word?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And did I give my exam?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

You know, it should just work.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

I think that's part of increasing intelligence is the model can understand what you're looking to do and do a good job of it without you having to work super hard at it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

That said, prompts still do matter and the models are very controllable with prompts.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And so, you know, we still find we'll launch something and we'll find that it's not behaving in certain ways the way we want it to.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And we can adjust it with a prompt a lot of times.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

You don't need to go back and like retrain the model.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

So it's both that I want to make it less necessary over time and that it is still a powerful vector.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

What does an agent mean to you?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

We think of an agent as something that can do independent work.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

So it's not just a quick, you know, you ask a question, you get an answer, but it's actually off doing tasks for you in the real world.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

So another, I think deep research is a great one where it's off doing, you know, hundreds of searches and putting together a complex report for you that might have taken you a week.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

I think another is Codex, which is our software engineering agent that we just launched.