Kevin Weil

Because on average, models are going to improve really fast.

And what's a weakness from one model will not be a weakness of the next.

So like the I think the thing to be building is like what we talked about at the beginning, reimagining use cases from first principles, building them from the ground up with AI.

And if you're in a place where you're excited about the next model that comes out, because that's what's going to make your product sing, that's a great place to be.

Oh, people are incredibly excited.

I mean, how could you not be?

I use products that Johnny designed my entire day.

He's been a part of building some of the most sort of cherished products and hardware that we use every day.

How could you not want to work with him?

Getting to know him through the process and other things, he's also such a lovely human being.

For somebody who's accomplished so much, he is so humble, thoughtful, kind, soft-spoken,

And then, you know, he'll say something sometime and you'll be like, oh, my God, like that is a completely different way of looking at the world.

And that opens my eyes to something that I just had never thought about.

And so is this combination of like genius and also wonderful human being?

How could you not be excited to work with him?

Well, I mean, he's coming in focusing on these sort of consumer hardware products.

And then also over time, I think will play a very significant role in design as a whole at OpenAI.

And again, I'm very excited about that.

How could you not be?

Johnny Ive coming in to take charge of a lot of your design, you know?