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Kevin Weil

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

There's so much opportunity.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

Sam said this one time and it stuck with me.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

He said, if you're building a company and you're building at the frontier of the model capabilities, if you're building something that really just barely works and you can't wait for our next model because you know it's going to make your product sing, then you're probably building in the right place.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

Because you're introducing something new to the world.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

You're making something possible that wasn't possible before.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And that's where you want to be.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

If instead, you're building some sort of scaffolding around that covers up the weaknesses of a current model, and you're actually afraid of our next model because it might not have those same weaknesses, that's a bad place to be building.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

Because on average, models are going to improve really fast.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And what's a weakness from one model will not be a weakness of the next.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

So like the I think the thing to be building is like what we talked about at the beginning, reimagining use cases from first principles, building them from the ground up with AI.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And if you're in a place where you're excited about the next model that comes out, because that's what's going to make your product sing, that's a great place to be.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

Oh, people are incredibly excited.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

I mean, how could you not be?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

I use products that Johnny designed my entire day.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

He's been a part of building some of the most sort of cherished products and hardware that we use every day.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

How could you not want to work with him?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

Getting to know him through the process and other things, he's also such a lovely human being.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

For somebody who's accomplished so much, he is so humble, thoughtful, kind, soft-spoken,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And then, you know, he'll say something sometime and you'll be like, oh, my God, like that is a completely different way of looking at the world.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And that opens my eyes to something that I just had never thought about.