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Kevin Weil

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And then over time, as those mature, they all kind of get merged back into single models.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

Yeah, it's a good question.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

It's one of the most interesting things about working here is you kind of have a sense of what's coming.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And, you know, I'm not in the research team, so I'm getting this, you know, as I collaborate and work with the researchers, I would say like,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

you know, on the product side, we have a decent sense of what's coming in the next, say, three months, maybe a hazy sense over the next six months.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And beyond that, it's harder to say.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

You know, you have a certain set of capabilities, you know, where like,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

You know a bit, but you see things coming through the haze a little bit.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And sometimes capabilities are, you know, it's research, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

So it's not like you just, you have the formula and you just turn the crank.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

We're uncovering new things and it's unpredictable.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

So sometimes things take longer than expected.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

Other times you see these capabilities that you didn't expect at all that are kind of emergent.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And all of a sudden something just works.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

Can you give an example of one that just worked that you weren't expecting?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

Well, I mean, deep research is an interesting example where for a while there were a handful of researchers thinking about the, it was like, okay, we could probably make the model able to do this like iterative kind of research where, you know, with deep research, you give the model a arbitrarily complex query to go research something that would probably take you a week.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And it will go off and it'll go off and do like a hundred searches and

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

but not all at once.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

It'll do three or four or five, and then it'll reason about the results that it gets back, try and understand how they pertain to what you asked and what gaps are still there.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

And then it'll go off and do some more searches and maybe think again.