Khabir

But in my mind, if you think about it, I'm just like, who cares?

I'm getting the job done.

I'm solving these fucking problems.

What do you care about that for?

It's not that great.

It's not that big a deal, but in my mind, it is a big deal.

Being on time is important.

So I'm older and more mature now, but the way that I thought about it was a little immature.

So you remember I told you about my dad and these... Multi-level marketing.

Multi-level marketing.

Well, what I did say is people call them multi-level schemes.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

But I couldn't think of multi-level marketing, but that's the proper term.

But yeah, I joined one and it turned out I spent, they got, they baited me into spending, what, $15,000 so I could be at this certain tier and I could make like $6,000 a month starting out.

And it turned out to be like a scam.

A guy got sued for millions.

Like later, like 2018, I think I got like a thousand dollars from like the lawsuit.

But I was like, all right, cool.

I'm not doing this.

I really have to create something for my own, for myself that I own, that I built with my hands.