Kieran Cuddihy

I mean, on the face of it, it's about criminality and violence and intimidation as well.

Louise is on the line.

Louise, I know you were listening to some contributors, I think Rebecca chiefly suggesting that parental responsibility is the way to deal with young lads, wild young lads on the streets of Ballymun, Finglas and other areas.

Do you agree with her?

Well, OK, let's talk about the children's allowance then.

You know, Michael O'Leary gets the children's allowance as much as somebody in Clondalkin.

And the principle is that it's not really a payment to him.

It's a payment to the children.

Yeah, but you're punishing the kids then, aren't you, by...

denying their parents money that's meant to support them.

But how do you know what they're doing with their children's allowance?

Parenting no longer exists.

I don't hold any truck with people, and I'm not saying you're doing this, Louise, who suggest that children who are victims of abuse, that it's somehow the parents' fault for not minding their child.

Okay.

Do you accept at all that there's a link, though, between poverty and... No, I don't.

Really?

Even though the most poverty-stricken areas would have the highest crime rates, you still wouldn't link the two?

It sounds like you're saying there's a better quality of parents in a more affluent area.

Even if you'd want to disagree with how big a factor, surely.

There's no other way to explain the crime rates and how they correlate with deprived areas.