Kieran Cuddihy

And where did this happen?

How did it happen?

Did anyone find out?

Did your parents find out you had a gun?

You had held a gun?

They're scared of nobody.

But let's imagine for a moment, say 30 years ago, the guards happened upon that field and you had a gun in your hand and it became a huge story.

11-year-old found holding a handgun in Talla.

People would have been ringing in, probably Marion Finucane on Lifeline at the time, and would have been saying, do you know what, it's her parents.

Her parents are the problem.

She's running wild in Talla with a handgun, an 11-year-old.

Do you know what I mean?

What I'm trying to get at is the difficulty in just saying that it's the parents.

The parents might be like your mother, doing their absolute best.

You still ended up with a handgun in your hand.

What do you think then if the, was it Louise who first suggested it?

Punish parents.

The poor people at Leitrim won't like that prospect.

Or the fact that they've been picked out as the place to go for punishment.

I know, I know, I know, I know you are.