Kieran Cuddihy

Well, that was, I mean, it's not the response you want, but it's a sad way, but it was a nice thing of her to do, wasn't it?

I know the Gardaí would say that they have kind of protocols that they would kick into gear and the Gardaí on a case-by-case basis would determine how best to respond to different situations.

Something like that.

It's just officially what they would say in response to that.

Is that, Rebecca, I use this word advisedly, but has that not been a bit of a snob, talking about parents needing to do courses to raise a kid?

I'm not sure people can hear what we're talking over each other to that degree.

That's crap parents in affluent areas as well, I'm sure.

But listen, I want to bring in Peter Whelan to the conversation.

Peter, I mean, I know you've been listening to what has been said.

How would you classify Ballymun and the problems it faces as an area?

Yeah, listen, you're

raise a really important point about the judicial system.

And I was listening to Morning Arda this morning.

What did they say?

About five and a half thousand beds in Irish prisons and about six and a half thousand prisoners in those beds.

We haven't had a new prison built since the population of the country was less than four million and it's now over five million.

So we have needed a new prison for a long time.

That's absolutely true.

We might get into that.

We'll get into more of these issues.