Kieran Cuddihy

and, you know, people who would believe the worst of Michael Jackson and think that's some sort of excuse.

Yeah, I know, and I appreciate that.

And, yeah, but the language used, we just be careful about it, you know, because, you know, autistic people listening to this, they won't like that.

Yeah.

Let me bring in... And also... Yeah, sorry Liam.

Yeah, go on Liam.

Let me bring in Professor Patrick Tracey, who's been listening to this as well.

Patrick, you're very welcome to the show.

You would have been, well, would you have been one of those people he trusted back in 2006 when he was in Ireland?

But far ahead, I can... Well, how then, how, Patrick, would you have described him in all the years you knew him?

If somebody just says, what type of person is Michael Jackson?

So, I mean, would you have gotten to know him then as a person?

Oh, I knew him very well.

What conversations did you have about paedophilia?

But what did you think of that response?

Did you think he was a paedophile?

But you must have speculated even in your own head at the time, given the allegations that were made.

listen we've had a huge reaction to this on the text line mostly people who are supportive of Michael Jackson and the movie and have seen it and love it and love the music and others less so why are people trying to defend Michael Jackson the evidence is the victim's testimony says somebody else predators don't give a vibe they move through the world undetected and often as lauded figures and please stop defending a monstrous paedophile no matter how good his music this is overshadowed by his evil deeds

the assessment of somebody else.

Yeah.